Libertarians and the Free State Project

Original writing | October 9, 2005 | Tim Condon

[p[adre29]

Libertarians have the best authors and some great ideas.

But the also are the dumbest political group on the planet.
So you have good ideas and great thoughts? SO WHAT?

The libertarians (a less than wise name really, ever read a
poll on the term "liberal"?) but the must continue to be the
"party of principles" but zero values.

Knock knock "Who is there?"
"This irelevancy and you are on my list libertarian"
"Well this libertarian disagrees with that listing"
"Why"
"Because you missed spelled irrelevancy"

and the beat goes on ........

[who knows what evil?]

Not to mention, this will help keep NH from being a blue state.

Too late...NH went Kerry in 2004.

[LivFREEordie]

Ping! You might be interested in this thread . . .

[muir_redwoods]

Count me in. I am retiring to NH in 4 years. Actually 205 weeks and 4 days but who's counting. I will register there as a Libertarian

[ct235]

By 9,000 votes out of more than 600,000 cast. There were over 30,000 same-day registrations on voting day. A goodly percentage of them were fraudulent (investigations continue). In about 75 years, no governor has served only one two-year term and then been tossed out. It happened to GOP Gov. Benson. Now Democratic Gov. Lynch is in his first term. I've got five bucks that Lynch won't be re-elected in 2006, and a conservative/libertarian-leaning Republican will be voted in. Wanna take the bet?

[ct235]

Thanks man. You go on up and check it out. There are so many interconnected libertarians there now that when you arrive you've got a few hundred personal friends waiting for you!

[who knows what evil?]

Wanna take the bet?

Thanks for the offer, but I'm not a gambler. You might be right, but in just a few short months; it will be of no concern of me what happens to New Hampshire.

[mosquitobite]

female ;) If I thought I could talk my husband into it, I'd be there in a second.

[MassachusettsGOP]

Save NH Please! I was born there and intend to Return in the next couple of years, don't let it become another sh*thole!

That being said however, I think you Libertarians should just vote within the Republican Party, put up Libertarian leaning candidates in the Primary, win that and when the General Election rolls around, NH's 35% Registered Republicans will vote for the "R".

[rcofdayton]

I understand. But it voted for Kerry in '04. Plus having a libertarian state in the middle of socialist New England is like establishing a Jewish nation next to Germany in 1939; insane.

[freepatriot32]

Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here

[traviskicks]

bump. good read.

[phantomworker]

Just thought you'd be interested in this thread and what your comments are, Mr Libertarian. :)

[krshnbrn]

The libertarians (a less than wise name really, ever read a poll on the term "liberal"?)

Many of the founders, like Jefferson were considered classical liberals. Not the libertarians fault that like the term "conservative" the word is meaningless in it's present context.

[krshnbrn]

I am a conservative, who leans libertarian

More of a strict constructionist myself, I see the libertarians(small l) as the only group that insists the government stay within it's Constitutional grant of powers. I've had all the socialism I can take, from the left and the right. Time for some new political parties, let what passes for political representation now go the way of the Whigs.

[Allosaurs_r_us]

In New Hampshire, by contrast, there are no state income taxes, no general state sales taxes, no estate taxes, no tangible personal property taxes, no intangible personal property taxes, no corporate income taxes,

 

$500 to $800 (or worse) to register a new car; astronomical property taxes; and housing costs three times the national average.

 

This seems to be a total contradiction with what you have stated. How do you explain this?

 

[jmc813]

I just wondering when the libertarians will make their own website and get off our conservative website.

The owner of this forum has endorsed the Republican Liberty Caucus, the most effective small-l libertarian organization going today. Also, keep in mind that Ronald Reagan called libertarianism the "heart and soul of conservatism".

[Tired of Taxes]

Says one committed libertarian from another northeastern state, "When all state and local taxes are taken into consideration, along with other mandated expenses such as insurance, I'll save between $50,000 and $75,000 every year after I move to New Hampshire from New Jersey."

I live in NJ. I admire the FSP. But, I'm a homeschooler, and NH homeschool laws are much stricter than NJ's.

Click here for New Hampshire's homeschool law.

Then click here for New Jersey's.

MAJOR difference.

But I wish you all luck. I think you're taking the right course of action by concentrating in one state. I just wish you'd picked someplace warmer. :-) Maybe my family will join you one day. In the meantime, I'll be following the FSP story to see how it works out.

[Billthedrill]

Kinda old, actually - didn't we thrash this out on FR a couple of years ago? Well, never mind - while my politics certainly have libertarian roots I can't help but feel this incremental approach is doomed to futility.

You want to take over a government, take over a government. Begin with a campaign of assassination of public officials, police, and political opponents. Stage an armed takeover of the capitol. Arrest the opposition and place them in camps. Close the border. Mass trials and executions. Anyone not believing in liberty, toleration, and human rights must be ruthlessly exterminated!

Or you could go for reason and building a political consensus. If you want. I guess.

Wimps.

[Texaggie79]

Im truly conservative, which is libertarian. Forgive the @##$#@ out of me for thinking I should be free.