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To: orionblamblam
"A theory is more like a scientific law than a hypothesis..."

Not a law. It may be accepted as a working premise for the purpose of making other hypotheses, but it has not been proven.

I understand fully, I AM a scientist.

The writer there states that theories are more complex than Laws. Not necessarily, but the simpler the premise, the easier it is to isolate it experimentally and prove it. Thus, laws tend to be simple and monotopical.

However, the theory of evolution has a simple premise. That through a variety of mechanisms, mutation, natural selection, etc., new Kindoms, Phyla, Classes, Orders, Genae, and species have developed, all from a common ancestral stock.

Were there one modern, naturally occuring, example of new species development, just one, then I might concede possibility.

Not, mind you the subspecies hairsplitting being done among those creatures capable of producing viable offspring, but a new species, with unique characteristics, capable of producing viable offspring only with its own kind, which posess those same characteristics.

Even at this fundamental level, there is no contender.

While extinction is well documented, and has occurred far, far, more often than not, that is not evolution, just dying out.

Evolution remains a theory, unproven.

49 posted on 10/12/2005 8:46:18 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
I understand fully, I AM a scientist.

A political scientist? A social scientist? You certainly have not demonstrated an adequate knowledge of the scientific method to qualify you as a professional in the hard sciences like physics, chemistry or biology.

53 posted on 10/13/2005 6:47:26 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

> I understand fully, I AM a scientist.

Evidenmce suggests otherwise. You staggerign lack of understanding of the vast pile of evidence supporting relativity, for example. And then there's THIS howler:
"Evolution remains a theory, unproven."

No scientist worth his salt would ever state such a thing and consider it a useful statement.

> Were there one modern, naturally occuring, example of new species development, just one, then I might concede possibility.

Then you should concede. Do some research.

> While extinction is well documented, and has occurred far, far, more often than not, that is not evolution, just dying out.

True. However, the fact that at one time some species were around and others weren't, and at some later time the originally extant species are now gone and new ones are there, is sufficient evidence, when one takes a look a tthe vast warehouse of such things.


54 posted on 10/13/2005 7:02:49 AM PDT by orionblamblam ("You're the poster boy for what ID would turn out if it were taught in our schools." VadeRetro)
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