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Bush at War With Right Over Court Nomination (And why Rush Limbaugh &c are sadly mistaken)
The Telegraph ^ | October 17, 2005 | Francis Harris

Posted on 10/16/2005 6:40:03 PM PDT by quidnunc

The White House branded its increasingly vocal conservative critics as "cynical" yesterday as the dispute over President George W Bush's nomination of his official lawyer to the Supreme Court deepened.

Many Republicans have described Harriet Miers as unqualified for such an important job. They are lobbying for an ultra-conservative with an established judicial record.

Critics have seized on correspondence between Miss Miers and the Bush family to portray her as a lightweight.

Mr Bush's top aide, the White House chief of staff Andy Card, criticised the campaign by influential party figures to prevent Miss Miers's elevation to America's most powerful court.

"I'm a little surprised they came out of the box so cynically," he told a television interviewer.

The use of such language by a top Bush aide about prominent Republican party supporters was unprecedented, indicating a growing sense of desperation.

The White House has suffered a dire six weeks during which it has been criticised for the handling of Hurricane Katrina, the Iraq war and its legislative programme.

As Mr Bush's approval ratings have sunk to an all-time low, his chief strategist, Karl Rove, has faced questioning for his role in the leaking of a CIA agent's name.

To add to the Republican's woes, the party's "iron fist" in Congress, Tom DeLay, has been indicted for criminal conspiracy and money laundering.

He says the charges are politically motivated.

Newsweek magazine noted yesterday that the Bush administration was now being seen as "a political machine that has lost its bearings, and even its skill, in a whorl of war, hurricanes, scandal, internal strife and second-term ennui".

Such talk has increased the Bush team's determination not to suffer defeat on the Miers nomination. But many believe the case against her is already overwhelming.

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(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections
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There are two wings of the Republican Party: the ideologically-driven wing which is committed to the fight against liberalism against all else, and the wing which is committed to governing and which realizes that compromise is essential to successful governance.

The ideological wing of the party has launched an intra-party fight in the expectation that it will serve to energize Republicans for the upcoming elections.

I believe they are wrong.

Rush Limbaugh has been advancing the argument that a fight between Republicans is a good thing.

He uses the example of the 1976 Republican convention as his example.

He argues that the fight surrounding Ronald Reagan’s nomination challenge to Gerald Ford energized the base so that Reagan was able to win in 1980.

Rush’s reasoning is an example of the logical fallacy post hoc, ergo propter hoc (after the fact therefore because of the fact) and as such is thoroughly specious.

Reagan’s challenge to Ford almost certainly was the reason that Ford lost, but that’s as far as it goes.

The reason that Ronald Reagan won in 1980 was because Jimmy Carter was such a thoroughgoing doofus, not because Reagan challenged Ford in 1976.

Had a capable Democrat been elected instead of the hapless Carter, Reagan might not have been elected.

I, for one, do not want to see this scenario repeated.

The election of someone like Hillary Clinton in 2008 will not necessarily guarantee conservative victories in subsequent elections.

We’re still paying for the Carter administration — the Iranian ayatollahs, the Panama Canal lost, a prohibition on oil drilling in Anwar and other national indignities.

Rush is dead wrong about the desirability of an intra-party fight and so are the idealogues who threaten to wreck the GOP.

1 posted on 10/16/2005 6:40:05 PM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc
Rush Limbaugh is the best political analyst in the country and he is right over 95% of the time. Unfortunately his stand on the Miers nomination, and his analysis in this whole issue of being anti-Miers, is wrong, very wrong.
2 posted on 10/16/2005 6:45:33 PM PDT by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: quidnunc

I find it a bit ironic quidnunc that you are citing the Telegraph to support your position on the Miers nomination.


3 posted on 10/16/2005 6:45:35 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: quidnunc
Rush is dead wrong about the desirability of an intra-party fight and so are the idealogues who threaten to wreck the GOP.

As a committed idealogue (and Rush fan), I believe that it is the "moderates" and other RINOs who threaten to wreck the GOP.

4 posted on 10/16/2005 6:46:42 PM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred")
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To: quidnunc
There are two wings of the Republican Party: the ideologically-driven wing which is committed to the fight against liberalism against all else, and the wing which is committed to governing and which realizes that compromise is essential to successful governance.

Nonsense, pure and simple. Compromise is for RINOs. The biggest problem for the Dimocratic party is its non-adherence to principles. The Dims are so desperate to stick to power that they are willing to compromise on anything. Obviously, the liberals want conservatives to be like them. Fat chance of that happening.............
5 posted on 10/16/2005 6:47:51 PM PDT by indcons (Let the Arabs take care of their jihadi brothers this time around (re: Paki earthquake))
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To: quidnunc; Stellar Dendrite

Had to add your own bias to the headline, right?

Stellar Dendrite: ping-a-ling.


6 posted on 10/16/2005 6:50:57 PM PDT by indcons (Let the Arabs take care of their jihadi brothers this time around (re: Paki earthquake))
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"I'm a little surprised they came out of the box so cynically,"

Totally tone deaf.

7 posted on 10/16/2005 6:51:08 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: quidnunc

I believe that Harriet Miers will be confirmed but at considerable political cost. Once on the Supreme Court, if she does anything other than huddle close to Scalia/Thomas, if she goes squishy like O'Connor, she will do great harm both to Bush and the Republican Party.


8 posted on 10/16/2005 6:51:46 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: quidnunc

I don't think Ford lost because Regan challenged him in the primaries. I think he lost because of Nixon, and because he pardoned Nixon, and because the MSM of course made him out a dolt from day one. Of course, the MSM was quite cruel to Carter too, but he was indeed a miserable failure.


9 posted on 10/16/2005 6:53:15 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: quidnunc
Rush is dead wrong about the desirability of an intra-party fight and so are the idealogues who threaten to wreck the GOP.

You make a well-reasoned argument, but I think it is you who is wrong. I do want an intra-party fight so that we--the so-called ideologues--can finally exercise power instead of chafing under the governance of party leaders who care little about important issues (such as abortion and gay marriage) and who treat politics as a game instead of as a war. The absolute last thing I want to see is the GOP turned into a mushy, stand-for-nothing party.
10 posted on 10/16/2005 6:53:41 PM PDT by hispanichoosier
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Jim Robinson wrote: "I'm a little surprised they came out of the box so cynically," Totally tone deaf.

It wasn't so long ago that Rush was singing a completely different tune.

He was adament that the only way to advance the conservative agenda was through winning elections, and that the GOP was the only game in town for conservatives.

11 posted on 10/16/2005 6:55:24 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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Bush loyalists are performing mental gymnastics to rationalize, justify, and defend this feckless pick. Bush started this fight by choosing a stealthy mediocrity much to the disappointment of damn near everyone (including persistent defender and Mier supporter Hugh Hewitt, who wanted Luttg). W pulled an HW and the prognosis is poor. W divided the conservatives not the other way around.


12 posted on 10/16/2005 6:55:29 PM PDT by Maynerd
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To: jveritas
FWIW, I agree with you. Rush isn't the worst of the bunch. Laura Ingraham, Buchanan, and Ann Coulter are worse. I turned Laura's show off Thursday and Friday because I couldn't stand listening to her comments.

The nominee hasn't even had her hearing. What is worse, these elitists will tolerate no prisoners, just chop her head off. After she is disposed of, they want us to believe that GW will nominate one of their preferred candidates and the person will sail right through. NO THEY WON'T! Having wounded the President, the liberals who don't want anyone but more liberals on the Court will be absolutely gleeful and the wonderful 14 will be busy with other things rather than kill a filibuster.

Jen
13 posted on 10/16/2005 6:56:51 PM PDT by IVote2 ( God Bless our military men and women! Thank you for your service.)
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To: hispanichoosier
Can the "ideologues" get over 50% of the total votes in general election?

Pragmatic and compassionate Conservatism is the best formula for winning and achieving our goals little by little.

14 posted on 10/16/2005 6:57:42 PM PDT by jveritas (The Axis of Defeatism: Left wing liberals, Buchananites, and third party voters.)
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To: quidnunc

And that is still the case. I doubt Rush will abandon Bush or the GOP and neither will I. But I do object to the president appointing his personal friend and lawyer to such an important lifetime position.


15 posted on 10/16/2005 6:59:04 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: IVote2

BTW, my comment was meant for Quidnunc.

My bad!


16 posted on 10/16/2005 7:00:01 PM PDT by IVote2 ( God Bless our military men and women! Thank you for your service.)
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To: quidnunc
He (Limbaugh) was adament that the only way to advance the conservative agenda was through winning elections, and that the GOP was the only game in town for conservatives.

As Paul Harvey says, "Here's the rest of the story." Why does Limbaugh want to win elections? To advance conservatism not just to win more elections. I hope "Republicans" are not in the early stages of Lord Actons maxim:

power corrupts. absolute power corrupts absolutely.

17 posted on 10/16/2005 7:00:13 PM PDT by Maynerd
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What's your theory on why this was so?

Was no politically asture person such as perhaps Karen Hughes or Karl Rove, available for duty on this task?

18 posted on 10/16/2005 7:00:31 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (To err is human; to moo is bovine.)
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To: quidnunc

As long as the nominee has good common sense and is a Conservative, I dont care if Bush picked Mickey Mouse.
I think all this crap about Harriet Miers is just that. A lot of crap.


19 posted on 10/16/2005 7:00:36 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: quidnunc
I think Rhenquist/O'Connor is to the right of Roberts/Meiers and the Court is the major reason I voted for Bush and have stuck with him all this time, notwithsatnding a busted budget, etc. With 55 Senators, there is no reason for him to pick this apparatchick. Worse than an opportunity lost, its a betrayal in a way.

Oh, and the argument that this fight ensures a Hillary election is specious in itself. The Republican nominee will not be the current President or his VP. Seperate issues..

20 posted on 10/16/2005 7:04:12 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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