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To: Atlantic Bridge

<< Well said. But there are some difficulties:

1. The American "Judeo-Christian" movement is completely unknown in Europe. Most Europeans understand themselves as Christians, but they see the Jewish religion as something completely different to their own belief. This has nothing to do with anti-semitism but with diverse interpretation and traditions.

2. If you stick closely to your friend/foe definiton America is forced to declare war to nearly all countries on this planet.


Of course this moron of a judge is unpleasant, but we should not take such things too serious. Nobody in Europe will arrest your soldiers. [3] This idiotic decision is just irrelevant. >>

1) "Judeo-Christian/Human Civilization" indicates that "Judeo-Christian Civilization" is synonymous with "Human Civilization." [AKA "Western Civilization"] That is, without the essential Judeo-Christian foundation, every modern attempt at either simulating [EG Asian "tigers" -- (meow)] and/or sustaining [EG: increasingly secular and islamic Europe] civilization has either failed or has ended up with but a poor Xerox copy of Western Civilization -- and/or is doomed to fail.

2) America essentially IS at war with the world. But not because of our misdefinition of the enemy. The world [Around which, having fluency through better-than-working competency and literacy in about a dozen languages, I have travelled for more than 45 years -- and continue to travel] envies and despises America in hesperophobic ways that make much of what the world demonstrates pretty much indistinguishable from collective clinical insanity. And that cause states and groups of states, [The United Nations and the Euro-peon Neo-Soviet being the two major examples of those] often unconsciously, to emotionally and effectively support our terroristic and other enemies.

3) Many in Europe would jump at the chance of arresting any American on any pretense. And don't waste your time trying to convince me of the irrelevancy of this Spanish "judge's" [Malicious, frivolous and hostile] action. I'm a tough sell.

Instead try convincing Chile's savior, General Pinochet.

Blessings -- Brian


119 posted on 10/20/2005 3:06:35 AM PDT by Brian Allen (Patriotic [Immigrant] AMERICAN-American and Aviator by choice - Christian by Grace)
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To: Brian Allen
1) "Judeo-Christian/Human Civilization" indicates that "Judeo-Christian Civilization" is synonymous with "Human Civilization." [AKA "Western Civilization"] That is, without the essential Judeo-Christian foundation, every modern attempt at either simulating [EG Asian "tigers" -- (meow)] and/or sustaining [EG: increasingly secular and islamic Europe] civilization has either failed or has ended up with but a poor Xerox copy of Western Civilization -- and/or is doomed to fail.

Spain is -together with Italy and Poland- the heartland of catholicism. There are no secular (in difference to the rest of continental Europe) or islamic attitudes there. Anyway the widespread populistic view that Europe belongs to the islamic hemisphere is completely ridiculous. Large parts of Europe are secular (i.e. eastern Germany or the big cities like Paris and Berlin) and they reclaim their own way of living. That much is true. But there is for sure no broad movement towards islam. Islam in Europe is limited to muslim immigrants.

The biggest difference to the American point of view about religion is, that Judaism doesn't play a large role in Europe. The links between the Christian churches and the Jewish communities are lean. Therefore there is no "Judeo-Christian" existential orientation in Europe.

America essentially IS at war with the world. But not because of our misdefinition of the enemy. The world [Around which, having fluency through better-than-working competency and literacy in about a dozen languages, I have travelled for more than 45 years -- and continue to travel] envies and despises America in hesperophobic ways that make much of what the world demonstrates pretty much indistinguishable from collective clinical insanity. And that cause states and groups of states, [The United Nations and the Euro-peon Neo-Soviet being the two major examples of those] often unconsciously, to emotionally and effectively support our terroristic and other enemies.

Why should America be at war with the rest of the world??! It is wrong that the rest of the world (!) sees America as the dark star (to stick on your image with Hesperus). We Europeans know, that America is our best friend on the side of freedom, but we also know that it is not perfect. Neither are we. You Americans are old enough to stand some critisim. BTW - I do not like socialism either, but the so called "socialistic systems" (in fact they are social democratic) in Europe are based by good and working democratic systems. Therefore even such fierce defenders of free market and capitalism like me have to respect the desicion of our sovereign, the European people.

Many in Europe would jump at the chance of arresting any American on any pretense. And don't waste your time trying to convince me of the irrelevancy of this Spanish "judge's" [Malicious, frivolous and hostile] action. I'm a tough sell. Instead try convincing Chile's savior, General Pinochet.

I would have arrested General Pinochet too since he was a ruthless swine. Standing on the right side doesn't excuse the murdering of innocents. This is not comparable to the case with the GIs.

120 posted on 10/20/2005 5:10:43 AM PDT by Atlantic Bridge (O tempora! O mores!)
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