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The Meritocracy Party: Is it still the GOP? The Miers nomination poses an awkward test.
Weekly Standard ^ | 10/19/5 | Duncan Currie

Posted on 10/19/2005 12:00:59 PM PDT by Crackingham

Writing in the Wall Street Journal, editorial board member Melanie Kirkpatrick counsels her "friends on the right" to "brew themselves a cup of chamomile tea and go back and review the roster of Bush judges." Such an exercise may help them "sleep better" with the nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court. "Any president is due some deference under the Constitution in his choice of judges," Kirkpatrick says, "and given his record on picking judges, this president deserves more than he has received."

In other words, trust Bush--or at least wait until the Senate hearings before passing judgment on Harriet Miers. For over two weeks now we've heard White House aides and pro-Miers conservatives parrot some variation of this argument. A charitable interpretation might be paraphrased as follows: Just be patient--when Miers goes before committee, she'll dazzle everyone with her punctilious mastery of constitutional law. A not-so-charitable interpretation might go like this: As long as she votes our way on the Court, what more do you want? So let's quit all this elitist nonsense about "qualifications" and "cronyism" and give her a chance.

If the pro-Miers forces mean to imply the former, then yes, they are correct to say the president deserves at least a modicum of deference in his selection. But if they mean the latter--that how Miers will vote is all that matters, and her credentials be damned--then conservatives should be aghast.

Republicans have spent much of the past quarter century establishing themselves as the Meritocracy Party: the party that rejects "dumbing down" American institutions, eschews race- and sex-based quotas, supports merit pay for schoolteachers, and endorses rigorous standards in all spheres of American life, the Supreme Court included. Yet when it comes to George W. Bush's second High Court nominee, the Meritocracy Party finds itself in quite a pickle.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gop; harrietmiers; miers; scotus; supremecourt
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To: BushisTheMan; republicofdavis
He was ridiculing...just what you accused me of.

I apologize to both of you, apparently I read something into a post that may, or may not, be correct. I won't inadvertently PING posters again. My mistake.

161 posted on 10/21/2005 4:56:51 PM PDT by Decepticon (The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day (NRA)
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To: BushisTheMan
Also BITM, include the poster that you are speaking of in the "To" line, common courtesy....don't be a "drive by poster".
162 posted on 10/21/2005 5:10:13 PM PDT by Decepticon (The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day (NRA)
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To: Decepticon

"I won't inadvertently PING posters again. My mistake."

No worries


163 posted on 10/21/2005 5:24:01 PM PDT by republicofdavis
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To: Steve_Stifler

A Clinton recess appointment.


164 posted on 10/22/2005 6:22:48 AM PDT by lifelongsoldier (Blessed art Thou oh LORD our GOD, King of the universe, and blessed are Thy chosen people.)
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To: Rodney King

Please give us a list of those "towering intellects" focusing on those who would submit themselves to the coordinated attack of such mental midgets as: Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan, Barbara Mikulski, Joe Biden, et al. Many of the persons you would prefer removed themselves from consideration because they did not want to be "Borked." President Bush chose someone he trusts, someone whom he has known for a good long time, someone with whome he has worked for years. She is qualified constitutionally for the court. If you doubt that, read the Constitution.


165 posted on 10/22/2005 6:30:17 AM PDT by lifelongsoldier (Blessed art Thou oh LORD our GOD, King of the universe, and blessed are Thy chosen people.)
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To: lifelongsoldier
Please give us a list of those "towering intellects" focusing on those who would submit themselves to the coordinated attack of such mental midgets as: Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Robert Byrd, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan, Barbara Mikulski, Joe Biden, et al. Many of the persons you would prefer removed themselves from consideration because they did not want to be "Borked."

Roberts was one. We don't know who all removed themselves from consideration, but I believe that Luttig did not.

President Bush chose someone he trusts, someone whom he has known for a good long time, someone with whome he has worked for years.

yeah

She is qualified constitutionally for the court. If you doubt that, read the Constitution.

That is such a lame argument. She is qualified "constitutionally". So is Pee Wee Herman.

166 posted on 10/22/2005 6:57:41 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Decepticon

I have no problem with that.


167 posted on 10/24/2005 10:04:56 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: republicofdavis

Actually there's no point. Each is dug into their own opinion (including me, I might add). This forum is just an outlet to express your own opinion. No one here ever changes the other person's mind.


168 posted on 10/24/2005 10:06:35 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: BushisTheMan

Well, I can't speak for everyone but my opinions have certainly been swayed or at least given more support by info I've obtained on FR in relation to many issues.


169 posted on 10/24/2005 10:13:17 AM PDT by republicofdavis
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To: Rodney King; lifelongsoldier

but I believe that Luttig did not.

You believe? But you don't know for sure, do you?

You probably "believed" that everyone deserved an up or down vote too, didn't you? Until it came to Ms. Miers. So much for your principles.


170 posted on 10/24/2005 10:15:55 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: Decepticon

Post 156 was not addressed to you or about you.


171 posted on 10/24/2005 10:20:01 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: BushisTheMan
You believe? But you don't know for sure, do you?

Excuse me. You made the assertion that all the good candidates pulled their names out. You don't know that for a fact, that is just rumour. So I replied that I thought Luttig did not. So, unless you can prove each and every judge that withdrew, then you are the one who is making assertions based upon "belief". So get off your high horse.

You probably "believed" that everyone deserved an up or down vote too, didn't you?

Yes, I do.

Until it came to Ms. Miers.

Who says I don't?

So much for your principles.

Mine are just fine. You are the one attacking me based on a totally false premise.

172 posted on 10/24/2005 11:23:11 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King

Your posts say you do not believe Miers deserves an up or down vote. The anti-Miers people, including you, are wanting her to either withdraw or not get voted in -- same thing!


173 posted on 10/24/2005 12:39:29 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: BushisTheMan
Your posts say you do not believe Miers deserves an up or down vote

No they don't. I have never said she should be filibustered.

174 posted on 10/24/2005 12:47:37 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: BushisTheMan
Your posts say you do not believe Miers deserves an up or down vote. The anti-Miers people, including you, are wanting her to either withdraw or not get voted in -- same thing!\

How can you possibly equate not getting voted in with "an up or down vote"? How? Why don't you just admit that you think she deserves an up vote, and you have hatred for everyone who doesn't agree with you. There is no sense in making yourself look foolish by suggesting that someone who is in favor of an down vote wishes to deny her an up or down vote. Notice, the phrase is up or down.

175 posted on 10/24/2005 12:55:24 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King

Simple, because she won't get out of committee, thanks to the anti-Miers critics.


176 posted on 10/24/2005 1:04:41 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: Rodney King

Miers deserves an up or down vote.

Notice, the phrase is up or down.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Looks like up or down to me. But your view is somewhat slanted normally.


177 posted on 10/24/2005 1:06:23 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: BushisTheMan
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Looks like up or down to me. But your view is somewhat slanted normally.

Nice job avoiding the fact that you accused me of being against an up or down vote for her on the basis of my wanting a down vote. Face it, you said something stupid and were caught. Be a man and admit you were wrong rather than try to obfuscate.

178 posted on 10/24/2005 1:09:24 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Rodney King
Notice, the phrase is up or down.

And that's what I said. Don't try to detract from your mistake by changing the argument to fit your needs.

179 posted on 10/24/2005 1:19:32 PM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: BushisTheMan
You didn't say "up or down". What you said was this:

Your posts say you do not believe Miers deserves an up or down vote. The anti-Miers people, including you, are wanting her to either withdraw or not get voted in -- same thing!\

That is what you said. You are claiming that I don't want an up or down vote because I want her to be voted down. It's there. This isn't like stealing a cookie from the cookie jar where you can deny it once you have eaten it. Your posts are right here on this thread. You said something stupid. You got caught. You are now trying to weasel out of it.

180 posted on 10/24/2005 1:24:41 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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