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Church's Anti-Halloween Flier Upsets Family
IBS ^ | October 20, 2005 | Staff

Posted on 10/20/2005 11:09:48 AM PDT by Millee

An Ellettsville family whose home is decorated for Halloween contacted police after someone placed on its porch a flier that suggests Halloween praises the devil.

Dalene Gully told Indianapolis television station WRTV that she took offense to the flier, which was placed outside her home by the House of Prayer Church of Bloomington.

"I started reading it, and I was very, very upset by it. I found it very accusatory and very threatening," Gully said.

The church's pastor, Larry Mitchell, said the people who left the flier would have preferred to talk with Gully, but she wasn't there.

Mitchell said the church didn't intend to upset the Gully family, but rather tell people that Halloween isn't harmless fun.

"Halloween is not fantasy," Mitchell said. "We're training up our children, and obviously this lady was trained up in this. Halloween seems like it is taking just as much prominence as Christmas."

The Gully family filed a complaint with the Ellettsville Police Department. The incident also prompted the family to install an alarm system at the home, the station reported.

"This is my home, and I like Halloween. If I want to decorate my home, I have every right to decorate my home," Gully said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: christhaters; cults; druids; halloween; idolatry; paganism
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The incident also prompted the family to install an alarm system at the home, the station reported.

Give me a break. The Christians are coming!! The Christians are coming!!
1 posted on 10/20/2005 11:09:53 AM PDT by Millee
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To: Millee

Evangelist Ray Comfort made the point that a life without God is a life of paranoia. It would seem that he was correct in this case.


2 posted on 10/20/2005 11:12:06 AM PDT by JakeWyld (This week's chapter: Romans 1 (I promise to keep working on the formatting). Goto my Profile.)
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To: Millee
This particular congregation and its pastor are whacked.

Leaving threatening letters on people's private property is not cool.

3 posted on 10/20/2005 11:12:14 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander-in-Chief)
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To: Millee
"If I want to decorate my home, I have every right to decorate my home," Gully said.

If someone wants to leave a flyer, they have every right to leave a flyer.

If they could pass a law against this stuff, the Jehovah's Witnesses would be shut down. Deal with it lady.

4 posted on 10/20/2005 11:13:16 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: Millee

" If I want to decorate my home, I have every right to decorate my home," Gully said"

I guess I missed the part of the article where someone violated her right to decorate her home. I see the part where she wants someone charged with a crime for exercising their right to free expression though...


5 posted on 10/20/2005 11:14:55 AM PDT by sanemom
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To: wideawake
Leaving threatening letters on people's private property is not cool.

If the letter were actually threatening, you can bet your dupa they'd have quoted it. So we know that it wasn't threatening--the lady reading it merely "felt threatened". There's a big difference. She's exercising property rights; the pastor is exercising free-speach rights; only an idiot (and a reporter) could get together and construe that the two were somehow mutually exclusive.

6 posted on 10/20/2005 11:15:25 AM PDT by Shalom Israel (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: Millee

Anyone, Christian or pagan, who can confuse the great American costume party on October 31 in which children dress up in mockery of the powers of evil (and just about anything else these days) with a pagan or demonic rite is sorely deluded.

It strikes me as particularly absurd for Christians, who in Our Lord have confidence against the wiles of real demons, to start or take offense at pantomime demons.


7 posted on 10/20/2005 11:16:40 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know . . .)
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To: wideawake

"Leaving threatening letters on people's private property is not cool."

Threatening? How is this threatening?

I think it was poor taste and judgment, but threatening seems to be a great exxageration.


8 posted on 10/20/2005 11:17:15 AM PDT by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: Millee
If I want to decorate my home, I have every right to decorate my home

sounds like someone doesn't agree.

If you do not want to decorate, you have that right. But when you start to tell others not to, you are on a slipperly slope; this kind of action which makes people afraid of evangelical christians. And I bet this pastor would be happy to have the government pass laws to limit such rights.

9 posted on 10/20/2005 11:17:46 AM PDT by pa mom
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To: wideawake

I must have missed the "threatening" part of the letter too. From what I read the flier simply expressed a viewpoint of Halloween. Next time someone hands me a PETA flyer or shows up at my door asking for donations to the Sierra Club I guess I can have them arrested for "threatening" me.

Is it "cool" to believe Halloween is bad? No, not in my opinion. But last time I checked there was nothing illegal about being uncool.


10 posted on 10/20/2005 11:17:53 AM PDT by sanemom
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To: Millee

Threatening? I doubt it.

I will say this — the church sounds like it's filled with busybodies.


11 posted on 10/20/2005 11:18:25 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Hypocrite opportunist. Don't infect me with your poison.)
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To: Millee

It must have been the Baptists, no the Baathist, I always confuse the two. My bad, go on.


12 posted on 10/20/2005 11:18:47 AM PDT by chicagopolish (People for Eating Tasty Animals)
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To: The_Reader_David

"It strikes me as particularly absurd for Christians, who in Our Lord have confidence against the wiles of real demons, to start or take offense at pantomime demons."

Absurd yes, illegal no.


13 posted on 10/20/2005 11:19:23 AM PDT by sanemom
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To: wideawake
The same church is also sponsoring one of those "Hell House" things for Halloween

http://www.thehop-e.com/events.cfm

14 posted on 10/20/2005 11:19:46 AM PDT by Heyworth
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To: wideawake

Where did it say the flyer was threatening?

It sounds like over reaction on both sides.

Halloween has been effectively co-opted as have a number of pagan traditions.. from Yule logs the dates of Christian holidays... a pretty good job,actually.


15 posted on 10/20/2005 11:19:46 AM PDT by gondramB (Conservatism is a positive doctrine. Reactionaryism is a negative doctrine.)
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To: sanemom

It's all Harry Potter's fault! (just kidding) :)


16 posted on 10/20/2005 11:20:47 AM PDT by oldoverholt
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To: Millee
"Halloween is not fantasy," Mitchell said. "We're training up our children, and obviously this lady was trained up in this. Halloween seems like it is taking just as much prominence as Christmas."

Trained up?

17 posted on 10/20/2005 11:20:53 AM PDT by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Millee



Most of our churches here have 'fall festivals' or 'trunk or treat' so that kids can participate in the fun without the fear of celebrating satan.


18 posted on 10/20/2005 11:21:08 AM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: Millee

Unfortunately, I have to take the side of the woman, even though I am an evangelical Christian that has traveled the world preaching the Gospel. I'm really sick and tired of Christians pointing out evil, instead of just simpling displaying the LIGHT. Show the love of Jesus, and see people drawn to Him. But just curse the darkness, and find fruitless, pointless, nonsense as what this pastor and church did. I wish some of these Christians would act like Jesus, instead of judging the world. Judging the world isn't our job...


19 posted on 10/20/2005 11:21:16 AM PDT by gamarob1 (.)
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To: wideawake

The article didn't say the letter was actually threatening, just that the woman found it so. It doesn't sound like the church actually threatened to send them to hell, just made them aware of their ultimate destination. ;-)


20 posted on 10/20/2005 11:22:03 AM PDT by kenth (There were only a few thousand hippies marching, but it smelled like half a million.)
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