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Thomas Sowell: "Us" or "Them"
Creator's Syndicate ^ | October 25, 2005 | Dr. Thomas Sowell

Posted on 10/25/2005 2:24:39 AM PDT by RWR8189

A reader recently sent me an e-mail about a woman he had met and fallen for. Apparently the attraction was mutual -- until one fateful day the subject of the environment came up.

She was absolutely opposed to any drilling for oil in Alaska, on grounds of what harm she said it would do to the environment.

He argued that, since oil was going to be drilled for somewhere in the world anyway, was it not better to drill where there were environmental laws to provide at least some kinds of safeguards, rather than in countries where there were none?

That was the end of a beautiful relationship.

Environmentalist true believers don't think in terms of trade-offs and cost-benefit analysis. There are things that are sacred to them. Trying to get them to compromise on those things would be like trying to convince a Moslem to eat pork, if it was only twice a week.

Compromise and tolerance are not the hallmarks of true believers. What they believe in goes to the heart of what they are. As far as true believers are concerned, you are either one of Us or one of Them.

The man apparently thought that it was just a question of which policy would produce which results. But many issues that look on the surface like they are just about which alternative would best serve the general public are really about being one of Us or one of Them -- and this woman was not about to become one of Them.

Many crusades of the political left have been misunderstood by people who do not understand that these crusades are about establishing the identity and the superiority of the crusaders.

T.S. Eliot understood this more than half a century ago when he wrote: "Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm -- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves."

In this case, the man thought he was asking the woman to accept a certain policy as the lesser of two evils, when in fact he was asking her to give up her sense of being one of the morally anointed.

This is not unique to our times or to environmentalists. Back during the 1930s, in the years leading up to World War II, one of the fashionable self-indulgences of the left in Britain was to argue that the British should disarm "as an example to others" in order to serve the interests of peace.

When economist Roy Harrod asked one of his friends whether she thought that disarming Britain would cause Hitler to disarm, her reply was: "Oh, Roy, have you lost all your idealism?"

In other words, it was not really about which policy would produce what results. It was about personal identification with lofty goals and kindred souls.

The ostensible goal of peace was window-dressing. Ultimately it was not a question whether arming or disarming Britain was more likely to deter Hitler. It was a question of which policy would best establish the moral superiority of the anointed and solidify their identification with one another.

"Peace" movements are not judged by the empirical test of how often they actually produce peace or how often their disarmament tempts an aggressor into war. It is not an empirical question. It is an article of faith and a badge of identity.

Yasser Arafat was awarded the Nobel Prize for peace -- not for actually producing peace but for being part of what was called "the peace process," based on fashionable notions that were common bonds among members of what are called "peace movements."

Meanwhile, nobody suggested awarding a Nobel Prize for peace to Ronald Reagan, just because he brought the nuclear dangers of a decades-long cold war to an end. He did it the opposite way from how members of "peace movements" thought it should be done.

Reagan beefed up the military and entered into an "arms race" that he knew would bankrupt the Soviet Union if they didn't back off, even though arms races are anathema to members of "peace movements." The fact that events proved him right was no excuse as far as members of "peace movements" were concerned. As far as they were concerned, he was not one of Us. He was one of Them.

Copyright 2005 Creators Syndicate


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: moralabsolutes; sowell; thomassowell
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To: 7thson
I came to realize they care nothing for the country - past, present, or future. It is just about them!
Ding, ding, ding ... we have a winner!
41 posted on 10/25/2005 5:15:35 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Pusterfuss

And Dr. Walter Williams.


42 posted on 10/25/2005 5:20:10 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: oh8eleven; 7thson
Both of you touch on a quote that Thomas Sowell has cited not too long ago

Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important. They don't mean to do harm-- but the harm does not interest them. Or they do not see it, or they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.

-- T. S. Eliot3

43 posted on 10/25/2005 5:20:30 AM PDT by saveliberty (I did not break the feed. I may have lost it, but I did not break the feed.)
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To: Pusterfuss

Milton Friedman calls Professor Sowell a genius and I think he is right.


44 posted on 10/25/2005 5:27:08 AM PDT by saveliberty (I did not break the feed. I may have lost it, but I did not break the feed.)
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To: Junior
It would be interesting to reword this article to refer to the religious right (or left), disguise the author and see what kind of response it would get from the Left.

My guess is it would gain their support.
45 posted on 10/25/2005 5:27:36 AM PDT by LiberationIT
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To: RWR8189

The causes of the Left are their religion. That's why they display the same fanaticism as the Islamists in defending their goal of ruling the earth and having everyone else do what they say. That's why both these fanatic religions attack Christianity.


46 posted on 10/25/2005 5:34:31 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Junior; longshadow; VadeRetro; RadioAstronomer; Doctor Stochastic; Condorman; King Prout; ...

Thanks for the ping to this. It's excellent.


47 posted on 10/25/2005 5:43:43 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Reality is a harsh mistress. No rationality, no mercy)
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To: PatrickHenry

BUMP!


48 posted on 10/25/2005 7:07:42 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: RWR8189
>In other words, it was not really about which policy would produce what results. It was about personal identification with lofty goals and kindred souls.

The ostensible goal of peace was window-dressing. Ultimately it was not a question whether arming or disarming Britain was more likely to deter Hitler. It was a question of which policy would best establish the moral superiority of the anointed and solidify their identification with one another.<

Dr Sowell is one of the great conservative minds of our time.

49 posted on 10/25/2005 7:13:24 AM PDT by Darnright (Remember that a lone amateur built the Ark. A large group of professionals built the Titanic.)
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To: LiberationIT
My guess is it would gain their support.

Everyone sees themselves as enlightened and their opponents as rigid followers of doctrine.

The real difference is one of personality rather than ideology. Some folks just can't get inside a contrary opinion.

50 posted on 10/25/2005 7:13:37 AM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: RWR8189
He argued that, since oil was going to be drilled for somewhere in the world anyway, was it not better to drill where there were environmental laws to provide at least some kinds of safeguards, rather than in countries where there were none?

So they broke up over a discussion of environmental policy? Sheesh.

51 posted on 10/25/2005 7:14:00 AM PDT by XJarhead
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To: KMAJ2
I find this article by Sowell to be spot on, and if you step back, his analysis also applies the the current rift among conservatives.

There is no reasoning with trust ...
545 posted on 10/14/2005 10:07:05 AM EDT by Cboldt

52 posted on 10/25/2005 7:14:39 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: backhoe

I would love to take an Econ course from Dr Williams. He may possibly be the one prof who could make this subject fascinating.


53 posted on 10/25/2005 7:16:10 AM PDT by doberville
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To: backhoe
The thing I like about Williams is his style of explanation in his use of everyday examples that all can relate to when examining a particular topic.

Such as his oft repeated "living document" comparrison when talking about the Constitution.

"How would you like to play poker with me and have the rules be living? Maybe my pair of 7s beats your full house."

54 posted on 10/25/2005 7:23:29 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: backhoe

"...In other words, it was not really about which policy would produce what results. It was about personal identification with lofty goals and kindred souls.""

This sentence really resonated with me too - I'm tired of those 60's radicals who think they did something significant in protesting the VietNam war.


55 posted on 10/25/2005 7:25:52 AM PDT by GOPPachyderm
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To: USS Alaska

WHat about Star Parker - another great mind and writer!


56 posted on 10/25/2005 7:30:21 AM PDT by GOPPachyderm
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To: js1138
Good point, but I'm thinking more of a faith versus reason approach.

For example the left is using reality-based as a way to differentiate themselves from the religious right, all the while ignoring reality in areas such as health care, more spending on education, environmental concerns, etc.

I interpret Sowell's point also to be that there are people who have such a strong faith in their point of view that no amount of reason will shake it. I think his point also applies to some on the right as well. (Yes, I include myself.)

Re personality, some group recently did a personality profile versus political profile kind of categorization. I recall that some of it, but not all made sense to me. I certainly agree that there are personality types that are more difficult to persuade than others.

But, enough about my sister-in-law....
57 posted on 10/25/2005 7:31:09 AM PDT by LiberationIT
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To: XJarhead
So they broke up over a discussion of environmental policy? Sheesh.

Doesn't surprise me in the least. My former roommate is a major environmental whacko liberal. Our phone discussions during the campaign in 2000 over our support for the different candidates got so heated that we had to agree to let the matter drop, but it never stopped him from spouting the "Earth in the Balance" crap Algore was spewing. We haven't spoken since the Battle of Florida.

Environmentalists are the most zealous, and self-righteous of the left-wing coalition. They'll support abominations like abortion, but God Help You! if you want to drill an oilwell in the frozen wasteland of Alaska. It might inconvenience a caribou!

58 posted on 10/25/2005 7:36:14 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (This tagline is under remodeling, thank you for your patience...)
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To: LiberationIT

The question is why are there people on both sides of any issue who are incapable of seeing the other's point of view.

I have always thought there was merit in the philosophy of school debates. You should be able to argue either side equally well. If you can't present your opponent's point of view, you can't argue rationally against it.


59 posted on 10/25/2005 7:38:09 AM PDT by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: PatrickHenry
Compromise and tolerance are not the hallmarks of true believers. What they believe in goes to the heart of what they are. As far as true believers are concerned, you are either one of Us or one of Them.

Yes. Sowell discovers Holy Warrior Syndrome.

60 posted on 10/25/2005 7:38:53 AM PDT by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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