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Can Kroger slow Wal-Mart?
Sacramento Bee ^ | 10/25/5 | Jon Ortiz and Dale Kasler

Posted on 10/25/2005 7:44:36 AM PDT by SmithL

Kroger Co.'s rumored plan to purchase Albertson's Inc. - combining the nation's two largest grocery chains - could create a chain large enough to compete and beat industry nemesis Wal-Mart Stores Inc.

Wal-Mart, a discounter, needed just 17 years to build 1,700 Wal-Mart Supercenter stores and become the country's largest seller of groceries. With more Supercenters on the way, traditional grocers such as Kroger have been looking for a way to keep their market share.

"Kroger, for many, many years, before Wal-Mart got in, was the No. 1 grocer in America," said George Whalin of Retail Management Consultants in San Marcos. "They're very good at what they do. They're formidable competitors."

Analysts say Kroger, with 2,525 stores, can hold its own, especially if it bulks up with 2,487 Albertson's stores. Cincinnati-based Kroger, which owns Ralphs Grocery Co., is the nation's biggest pure grocer - with a reputation for strong customer service, something that is a struggle for giant retailers such as Wal-Mart.

Officials with Kroger and Boise-based Albertson's declined to comment Monday on rumors of a bid reported by the Wall Street Journal and the New York Times to be about $10 billion plus the assumption of more than $6.5 billion in debt.

Investors embraced the proposed marriage as traders bid up shares in both companies. Albertson's shares rose $1.19, or 4.95 percent, to $25.25 on the New York Stock Exchange. Kroger shares rose 27 cents and closed at $20.07 on the New York Stock Exchange.

"A merger between Kroger and Albertson's would bump up competition, not only for Wal-Mart but for everybody in the industry," said Michael Banks, owner and partner of Las Vegas-based retail consultant Select Marketing LLC. "That's good for the business and good for customers."

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Competition?

Works for me!

1 posted on 10/25/2005 7:44:36 AM PDT by SmithL
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To: SmithL

I haven't been in an Albertson's in years but I like Kroger. They are clean and well stocked. You couldn't pay me to go to Wal-Mart.


2 posted on 10/25/2005 7:46:56 AM PDT by ShadowDancer (Stupid people make my brain sad.)
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I haven't been in an Albertson's in years but I like Kroger.

Both are in Dallas. Wal-Mart has cleaned their clock in market share. As long as the other grocers have union issues, etc., they won't be able to compete. It is like fighting with one hand tied behind your back. For example, I can get a pound of meat or cheese at the Wal-Mart deli for roughly half the cost of the exact same brand at a Kroger, Albertson's or a Tom Thumb (owned by Safeway).

3 posted on 10/25/2005 7:50:07 AM PDT by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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Can Kroger slow Wal-Mart?

Are you kidding? Krogers is a lot more expensive.

4 posted on 10/25/2005 7:50:30 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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If my local Kroger store was always well-stocked, I would never have driven all the way across to town to give the Wal-Mart food department a shot at my business. But alas, when you can't even be sure that your Kroger store is going to have heavy whipping cream, and Wal-mart always has it, then it's a waste of my time to shop Kroger.

I shop Marsh for fresh fruits, vegetables and meats. Wal-Mart gets all my packaged food and canned food business.


5 posted on 10/25/2005 7:51:47 AM PDT by Madeleine Ward
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To: SmithL

I do most of my shopping at Kroger's because the prices are usually comparable and they have a really great produce section.


6 posted on 10/25/2005 7:51:48 AM PDT by CajunConservative
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To: ShadowDancer
Out our way, Publix is cleaner. Kroeger is a little nastier. However, the price difference is so vast, I go to Kroegers.

One problem, though, is that you have to pay careful attention to expiration dates. They love to sell you expired food.

7 posted on 10/25/2005 7:51:55 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: SmithL

Kroger will have to get their affilitates in areas where they held a monopoly to stop price gouging if they want to keep Walmart's Supercenters at bay.

In the town where I live, until we got a Supercenter, the local Kroger affiliate (Kroger is called "Dillons" in Kansas) used to charge about 10% more for most items than stores in other nearby markets where there were multiple grocery chains.

They still haven't quite got it--although their prices moderated, Walmart still undercuts them on milk, breakfast cereal, lentils (as an Eastern Orthodox, this matters, we're more or less vegan about 180 days out of the year, though we love our lamb, beef and chicken the other 185), seafood (except jumbo shrimp), chicken, soda and snack-foods, except when Dillons' has a sale.


8 posted on 10/25/2005 7:53:07 AM PDT by The_Reader_David
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To: AmericaUnited

Kroger is going to have to lower their prices to compete. We have Aldis stores around here too. Ther are even cheaper.


9 posted on 10/25/2005 7:53:18 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: peyton randolph

We have Safeway markets up here but no Albertson's. The only times I have shopped in them is in Florida.


10 posted on 10/25/2005 7:53:25 AM PDT by ShadowDancer (Stupid people make my brain sad.)
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I used to shop at Kroger's and I miss them. I've never liked Albertsons, and won't miss them.

I rarely shop Wal-Mart, but they tend to keep other retailers honest, and I like that. I'm disgusted about all the political attacks on Wal-Mart from leftist politicians and their union masters. However, if another merchant want to take the battle to Wal-Mart on the battlefield of commerce, I'm all for it.


11 posted on 10/25/2005 7:53:46 AM PDT by SmithL (There are a lot of people that hate Bush more than they hate terrorists)
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I can get a pound of meat or cheese at the Wal-Mart deli for roughly half the cost of the exact same brand at a Kroger

That's because Walmart buys all their meat from China, and everyone knows they use body parts from executed prisoners. Ok, I got that out of the way for the Anti-Walmart crowd :)

12 posted on 10/25/2005 7:54:02 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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We have union grocers here who do quite well, but must keep control of benefit costs. Wal-mart doesn't offer the choice they do, nor the extensive high quality store brands. Other than soda and water, Sam's Choice is crap.


13 posted on 10/25/2005 7:54:06 AM PDT by steve8714
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To: Lazamataz
I go to Publix and Kroegers for the 'specialty' stuff.
14 posted on 10/25/2005 7:56:03 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: ShadowDancer

No Kroger's around here, but Albertson's closed down a couple of years ago. They were the highest price grocery store chain in town.

I have always heard that the grocery business is so cutthroat that they only make a very small profit. I don't believe it anymore. Wal-Mart is not just a few pennies lower in price. Their regular prices are very close to the sale specials at the other stores. Unless Wal-Mart is doing this as a loss-leader (which I don't believe for a minute), there is a lot more pad in grocery store pricing than we have been lead to believe.


15 posted on 10/25/2005 7:58:13 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: peyton randolph
As long as the other grocers have union issues, etc., they won't be able to compete.

Exactly. Plus, Kroger can't figure out how it wants to compete.

Do they do it through the traditional way, of offering big markdowns on different products every couple of weeks, or do they just cut the price of everything and try to compete across the board with Wal-Mart?

Upscale grocers like Central Market and Market Street are taking the high-end shopper who has plenty of discretionary income to spend on Kobe Beef and caviar.

So, Kroger will have to take on Wal-Mart for the mid and lower tier. Wal-Mart is woefully inadequate in its meat selections (no Angus beef,no veal), but far superior to Kroger, IMO, in produce.

But, since Kroger starts with a higher cost base, it will never be able to compete on price with Wal-Mart. Nor will Safeway or anybody else.

16 posted on 10/25/2005 7:58:51 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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To: SmithL
I wonder if the hypocritical left will take after Kroger as it has Walmart?
17 posted on 10/25/2005 8:01:19 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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Well this sucks.

The first thing that will go is Albertsons.com, the best online grocery store on the Internet. I've used it for more than a year now, and it is a great service.
18 posted on 10/25/2005 8:01:34 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: SmithL

Kroger will do better when they dump the unions...


19 posted on 10/25/2005 8:01:35 AM PDT by GOPJ (Protest a democrat -- light your hair on fire -- and the MSM still won't take your picture.)
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To: caver
We have Aldis stores around here too. Ther are even cheaper

Yes they are, but OMG you have to bag your own groceries and pay a nickle for a paper bag and a dime for a plastic one and they are closed on Sundays.(/sarcasm)

Seriously though if you want cheap prices on the basics (milk, eggs, bread, produce etc. etc) Aldi's is the place to go.

20 posted on 10/25/2005 8:02:31 AM PDT by Dane ( anyone who believes hillary would do something to stop illegal immigration is believing gibberish)
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