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Sources: No Indictments Wednesday in CIA Leak Probe
Fox News ^ | October 26, 2005 | Jane Roh

Posted on 10/26/2005 9:36:57 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

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To: kabar
Yikes. I did leave out House. S/B White House. I hope the PC cops don't arrest me.

How are you so sure that a desk jockey like Valerie Plame would be above Top Secret? After all, she apparently didn't hide the fact that she worked for the CIA from her neighbors. You don't handle classified information like that if you work for the CIA and have to take those lie detector tests every few years. How would you like to be good old Valerie and be asked: "Have you ever mentioned to any of your neighbors that you worked for the agency?". The needle would jump off the chart on that one.

So I'm betting you are wrong. It's classified info but it isn't the Manhattan Project either.

101 posted on 10/26/2005 12:02:18 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: kabar
Does it make sense that any President can divulge sensitive, classified information to a foreign power and can escape prosecution because he can automatically declassify it? No man is above the law, even the President.

Just came back from a run...

He can amend, rescind, or write another EO to cover his actions making it legal - dotting the 'i's and crossing the 't's so to speak.

The distinction is between what should be political suicide and what is legal.

Lets use our "favorite" president Clinton as an example:

Clinton loosened the security in Energy Department where our nuclear secret where most likely stolen by Red China. Clinton exported missile technology to Red China via Bernard Schwartz & Loral Space by letting the Commerce Department decide what is and what is not sensitive, national security technology which can be exported to foreign powers. All legal but what I consider is treasonous action by the president - and all legal.

During Clinton's impeachment Ken Starr should have included charges to Congress that Clinton directly put the US in the future danger by nuclear strike. As we know, impeachment is not a criminal proceeding but an attempt to remove a sitting president because the impeachers believe he has committed acts that Congress disagrees with.

There may be a political price to pay for declassifying info, but it's legal for the president.

Like to stay and chat but I've got to go ...until this evening. :)

102 posted on 10/26/2005 12:03:00 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: West Coast Conservative

This just in:

In hushed tones, the radio news guy said counsel is meeting with the judge. He could ask for an extension or a brand new grand jury.


103 posted on 10/26/2005 12:05:42 PM PDT by rwa265 (The Promise of the Lord, I Will Proclaim Forever)
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To: Semper Paratus
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104 posted on 10/26/2005 12:09:03 PM PDT by USAConstitution
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To: rwa265

I think an extension would be a good news for liberals, as they are hoping for more out of this.


105 posted on 10/26/2005 12:17:30 PM PDT by NonAmerican
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To: kabar

There isn't ONE neighbor who will tell the truth? I keep hearing that her identity was an open secret, but nobody is verifying it.


106 posted on 10/26/2005 12:25:02 PM PDT by Democratshavenobrains
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To: rwa265

"...Your Honor, I am deeply sorry that so much of the court's time was wasted pursuing these frivolous charges; as you know, Friday is our last day, and I wanted you to know first that no indictments would be forthcoming. By the way, can I pencil you in for 18 next Wednesday morning?"


107 posted on 10/26/2005 1:00:24 PM PDT by Reagan80 ("Government is not the solution to our problems, Government IS the problem." -RR; 1980 Inaugural)
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To: SirLinksalot
However, if Miller or anyone in the press figures out Valerie Plame's identity and tells Libby that they know about it, what is Libby supposed to do? I would think that Libby was more concerned about Valerie Plame's involvement in her husband's efforts to bring down the Bush Administration.
108 posted on 10/26/2005 1:13:08 PM PDT by jonrick46
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To: InterceptPoint
How are you so sure that a desk jockey like Valerie Plame would be above Top Secret?

If you know post #76, I said that the identiy of a covert agent would be above TS. It is a life and death matter as Ames demonstrated. There is some dispute as to the status of Plame, so it depends on what her status was at the time.

After all, she apparently didn't hide the fact that she worked for the CIA from her neighbors.

Latest reports indicate that her neighbors deny knowing that she worked for the Agency.

You don't handle classified information like that if you work for the CIA and have to take those lie detector tests every few years. How would you like to be good old Valerie and be asked: "Have you ever mentioned to any of your neighbors that you worked for the agency?". The needle would jump off the chart on that one.

If you are asked that question.

So I'm betting you are wrong. It's classified info but it isn't the Manhattan Project either.

I wouldn't bet if I were you.

109 posted on 10/26/2005 1:14:20 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Democratshavenobrains

As I mentioned previously, you would have to be a fool to admit that you knew her identity. Who wants to be drawn into protracted legal proceedings and asked to testify?


110 posted on 10/26/2005 1:16:02 PM PDT by kabar
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To: demlosers

Please read the entire EO and then we'll discuss.


111 posted on 10/26/2005 1:16:41 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Brilliant
If Judith Miller had a security clearance (story) would Libby have been legally able to tell her about Plame? Wouldn't it then have been illegal for Miller to tell someone else about Plame?
112 posted on 10/26/2005 1:21:45 PM PDT by MediaMole
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To: popdonnelly
Gergen was supposedly a conservative until he decided he needed a job in the Clinton Administration.

Which means what he REALLY is is a political whore.

113 posted on 10/26/2005 1:23:09 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: kabar
..........you would have to be a fool to admit that you knew her identity........

You would have to be a fool NOT to admit it, if the Feds are asking the question.

114 posted on 10/26/2005 1:27:27 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: Red Badger

>>>Th news is There is no news?..........This is news?............

The media is trying to force an indictment by talking about it as if it is a done deal. That's what all the noise is, they want to pressure Fitz into the indictment mode.

patent


115 posted on 10/26/2005 1:33:34 PM PDT by patent (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on. Carl Sandburg)
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To: patent
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116 posted on 10/26/2005 1:35:53 PM PDT by Red Badger (I've eaten so much crow in my life that I'm immune to bird flu.........)
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To: MamaLucci
You would have to be a fool NOT to admit it, if the Feds are asking the question.

And how would the Feds prove that you knew?

117 posted on 10/26/2005 1:38:20 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

The same way they prove lots of things...........by interviewing anyone you've ever spoken to in your life, looking at telephone and internet records, etc. The point is, as it always is with these types of investigations, you don't know what info the Feds already have when they question you. Just ask Martha Stewart.


118 posted on 10/26/2005 1:46:16 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: jonrick46
I would think that Libby was more concerned about Valerie Plame's involvement in her husband's efforts to bring down the Bush Administration.

I doubt Libby was concerned about Wilson's loony rantings at all- it's just that reporters seem to have kept asking various people about Wilson during conversations about more important- and unrelated- matters.

119 posted on 10/26/2005 2:00:18 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: Red Badger

>>>Wizard of Oz..........

Yep.


120 posted on 10/26/2005 2:46:54 PM PDT by patent (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on. Carl Sandburg)
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