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To: Dead Dog

Just now had time to respond. Wow, I appreciate your response VERY much. I went to your links. I have gotten my understanding of the origins of the leftist mindset sharpened considerably. I think you are right on in your analysis.

You mentioned the occult. I agree with you. Especially if we factor in - here's where I may lose you, so many discount what they label "tin hat" theories - the influence of the occult on "intellectual" Europe back then: such things as Grand Orient Masonry and Adam Wisehaupt's schemes.

I have read the historian Nesta Websters books. She wrote extensively along these lines. Her book "Secret Societies and Subversive Movements" is quite an eye opener.

Hegel's dialectic philosphy of the material vs the spiritual, I now see, also play a big role in this. Which in turn, provided the basis for Marx materialism. The "19th century materialism" you spoke of. Truth be known, Both Hegel and Marx were probably influenced by occultic thinking to some degree. According to Webster, it was the rage in Europe for "intellectuals" back then, apparently.

Frederick the Great, Adam Wisehaupt, Cabalists, Grand Orient Masonry, the Jacobites, Socialism, Hegel, Marx and Engel,the Bolsheviks and Communism, Nazism, "liberalism," and our present day Democrat party, in my opinion, are peas of the same pod. Materialists, yes, all of them. Pantheists or anti-Theists.

And though some of them, like the atheist Marxists, would discount the spiritual, in my view, they are also spiritualists. Of the evil side, the occultic side, of the "spiritual," however.


79 posted on 11/01/2005 10:14:26 AM PST by sasportas
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To: sasportas

In a phrase, they are all meat puppets. They live for the flesh, to be of the world and deny all that is not. Slaves of the flesh, from a very Christian (and probably Jewish) perspective.

It is incredibly intersting how it all ties togather, and kinda creepy as well.


82 posted on 11/01/2005 1:50:27 PM PST by Dead Dog
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