[Diamond]

Welcome to FreeRepublic. If you do a search here you will find many old threads on the subject with more detail than you may be able to stomach. In short though, the materialism of Jefferson and Locke is the not same philosophical materialism that we think of today. Locke was a practicing Christian. And second, while there were a few Deists among the Founders, the overwhelming number were Christians of one Protestant denomination or another. The American historian Bancroft puts it this way:

"...He who will not honor the memory and respect the influence of Calvin knows but little of the origin of American liberty."
and
"... "The Revolution of 1776, so far as it was affected by religion, was a Presbyterian measure. It was the natural outgrowth of the principles which the Presbyterianism of the Old World planted in her sons, the English Puritans, the Scotch Covenanters, the French Huguenots, the Dutch Calvinists, and the Presbyterians of Ulster."

I think would be most difficult to sustain an accusation of empty propaganda devoid of substance or historic accuracy againt one of America's greatest historians, and one who was certainly no Calvinist himself.

Cordially,

[USConstitutionBuff]

So when caught in a bare faced lie, you retreat and then attack a straw man argument?

I never denied that the majority of the Founding Fathers were Christians, or denied the influence of Calvin in specific or Christianity in general. That is a straw-man that you set up.

However I still take issue with your statement that the Founding Fathers were Creationists. Jefferson was a Materialist, and decried any hint of the supernatural as the product of a corrupt or ignorant mind. Deists believe the world was created (I am a Deist) but they are most certainly NOT Creationists by any stretch of the imagination. And being a Christian and being a Creationist is hardly synonymous; just as being an Atheist and subscribing to the theory of evolution through natural selection are not synonymous.

And I can stomach much; as evidenced by my tolerance for your incorrect generalizations, logical fallacies, and your straw man arguments.

Cordially,