[Fishrrman]

JBGUSA wrote:
For 1000 years Europe carved itself up in wars. They are not a mellow, idyllic, cultured oasis they like to hold themselves out as. The Europeans will not let themselves go down the drain into a Eurabian existence.

and rgb81 replied:
I disagree. Your assessment may have been true at the turn of the century, but not now. The two brutal world wars of the last century have resulted in a pacified Europe. The scourge of socialism and secularism have eaten away at the European soul. The last nail in the coffin is political correctness and guilt from imagined colonial crimes. This attitude is ingrained in Euorpean whites to an astoishing degree (of course, it doesn't stop them from being anti-Semetic). Take these three together and you have a Europe that is incapable of direct, effective action.

John speaking:

Interesting "counterpoints".

I forsee two possible futures for Europe:

1. Eurabia
-or-
2. A second Holocaust that will make the first one seem tame by comparison.

I can't see a "middle path". There is no way, there can never be a way, for the growing legions of Muslims to "integrate" into European nations and cultures, because European freedoms and cultures are anathema to Islam.

Again, Eurabia or the expulsion (or worse) of Islamics from the European continent.

- John

[JBGUSA]

Fishrrman-

"Interesting "counterpoints".
I forsee two possible futures for Europe:
1. Eurabia
-or-
2. A second Holocaust that will make the first one seem tame by comparison.

I see a second Holocaust. They'll do it differently. The battle with the Muslims will shift to battlefield format, with instructions to "shoot to kill". I cannot predict the magnitude, but it will be breathtaking.