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Missing Lancaster Teenager [Update: Girl Found Unharmed in Indiana]
KYW News Radio ^ | November 13, 2005

Posted on 11/13/2005 2:15:56 PM PST by grjr21

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To: Squantos; Jeff Head; Travis McGee; Alas; Eaker
I will probably get slammed for this, but I look at the pics and think - where were mom and dad for the past 14 years? I have a 14 YO who still likes to get out the Barbie dolls every so often, she sure hasn't thought of plucked eyebrows. I mourn at their deaths, but on the other hand one reaps what they sow. (No, for all the flamers, they did not deserve to die, this is a figure of speech)
201 posted on 11/14/2005 3:16:29 AM PST by SLB ("We must lay before Him what is in us, not what ought to be in us." C. S. Lewis)
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To: Cagey; Jim Robinson

Jim, could it please be taken into consideration that Amber Alerts warrant breaking news status?

I've posted some before and the kids were taken across state lines. Kidnappers sometimes come into an area from somewhere else...they aren't just local incidents in many cases.


202 posted on 11/14/2005 4:25:19 AM PST by tutstar (OurFlorida.true.ws)
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To: Cagey

This has to be a very big shock. Pillar is a Christian group and so as soon as I heard it I had a feeling it was not going to be the avg pedophile that had taken her. This is terrible.


203 posted on 11/14/2005 4:27:03 AM PST by tutstar (OurFlorida.true.ws)
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To: grjr21; All

I haven't been all the way through the thread so excuse if this info has been posted.

David G. Ludwig killed 14-year-old Kara Beth Borden's parents after they and their daughter argued about her curfew, police said. The girl was last seen Sunday morning at the family's home in Warwick Township, about 60 miles west of Philadelphia.


"We think they're boyfriend and girlfriend," said Seace. "The young girl was out during the night, came home, and her parents confronted her. From what we understand, he came to the house."

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=47277


204 posted on 11/14/2005 4:42:55 AM PST by tutstar (OurFlorida.true.ws)
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To: tutstar

Some of it has to do with motherly instinct.
Christians are humans too. And sometimes Christians are bad news, or their kids.

I have a neighbor who is very Bible oriented Christian. She has one disabled daughter and an older girl. The older one is sneaky and violent. The mom spends tons of time and energy taking care of the little one so the older one has problems that she doesn't see or doesn't want to.

Although we used to be close, a few incidents caused us to pause. I thank the Dear Lord that nothing has happened so far. I have heard from other mothers in a homeschooling group that I don't belong to, this girl is getting worse.


205 posted on 11/14/2005 4:44:24 AM PST by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: trussell

Just what Pennsylvania needs -- another missing blonde girl so that the talking heads can speculate about which minority group was responsible for abducting her and murdering her parents, before the authorities can develop meaningful evidence to counter the hysteria.


206 posted on 11/14/2005 4:53:40 AM PST by MurryMom
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To: netmilsmom; cyn
Christians are humans too. And sometimes Christians are bad news, or their kids.

I think that for the most part when something is done by someone who claims to be a Christian that the person had a false conversion, of the mind but not the spirit. Backsliding is always possible but if there has never been fruit evident in their life it's cause for question.

My son was attacked by some other boys the other day at a church event. Thank God it was over quickly and he wasn't injured badly. Unfortunately those boys were allowed to stay for the remainder of the event with a stern warning. I was called at the time of the incident due to my son's injury but the other parents were not called and that was wrong. So we have to deal with the situation with our church leaders this week. I learned last night that some girls had jumped a girl at church some weeks previous. We are living in perilous times!

207 posted on 11/14/2005 4:54:13 AM PST by tutstar (OurFlorida.true.ws)
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To: tutstar

>> I was called at the time of the incident due to my son's injury but the other parents were not called and that was wrong. So we have to deal with the situation with our church leaders this week. I learned last night that some girls had jumped a girl at church some weeks previous.<<

You're right. All parents should be held responsible for their children.

I have it at my church too. We do Slovak dance and one family has six of the dancers. Because of that, the littlest can do anything. She has hit my daughter twice. We keep a good eye on these children.


208 posted on 11/14/2005 5:04:00 AM PST by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: grjr21
May God hold this child close to Him now and build a shield ofprotection around her. May He see her safely home, in Jesus' name.

Carolyn

209 posted on 11/14/2005 5:22:00 AM PST by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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To: trussell
Let's roll PA FReepers.
210 posted on 11/14/2005 5:36:52 AM PST by varyouga (Reformed Kerry voter ( I know, I'm a frickin' idiot))
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To: twinzmommy

I believe at MYSPACE you have to say you are 18 or over to make a page. So that is what the kids do.


211 posted on 11/14/2005 6:03:04 AM PST by alisasny (Jerry Lewis on France rioting...."CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!")
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To: MurryMom

They've already got a suspect. He's white.


214 posted on 11/14/2005 6:16:09 AM PST by trussell (Hello, my name is Utter...Utter Chaos)
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To: tutstar

Sounds like the movie Badlands, starring the young Martin Sheen and Sissy Spacek (also with Warren Oates), which was, in turn, based on a true story. But I can't remember the real outlaw's name.


215 posted on 11/14/2005 6:17:18 AM PST by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: tutstar

From what I've heard, police are admitting she may have left with him willingly (still kidnapping as she's 14 and he's 18).

I am beginning to suspect the girl has a role in this whole thing.


216 posted on 11/14/2005 6:19:17 AM PST by Hoodlum91 (Happy Birthday Condi!)
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To: GBoettner
The young man obviously premeditated their murder, but we don't know much beyond that.

She's just 14, and we don't know what is going thru her mind today. She is in grave danger with this guy, in part because there is no way out for either of them.

sw

217 posted on 11/14/2005 6:21:02 AM PST by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: spectre

"She is in grave danger with this guy, in part because there is no way out for either of them."

This is my worry. IF the girl went along willingly, she may by now have remorse and is scared and hysterical. Does not bode well.


218 posted on 11/14/2005 6:23:32 AM PST by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: trussell

MurryMom is back, and just as "lucid" as ever!! I think JimRob has withheld the ZOT all these years so we can toy with her.


219 posted on 11/14/2005 6:26:18 AM PST by ErnBatavia (Frist would be a great Majority Leader if he had 65 seats..make that 75)
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To: Hoodlum91

I have a really bad feeling about this one, and I suspect from the comments by the police they do too.


220 posted on 11/14/2005 6:30:16 AM PST by mware (Keeper of the I's.)
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