One Woman's Choice

The Washington Post ^ | November 15, 2005 | Maria Eftimiades

[gooleyman]

I didn't see that they went for another professional opinion. Doctors have been wrong in their diagnoses. Doctors told my Grandmother-in-law that she had a couple months to live and she didn't die until 46 years later. A friend of mine had a doctor to tell him he had better abort his baby or he would lose both his wife AND the baby. He chose life, and both the wife and baby are as healthy as can be today. Who is to say that the baby in this story really had what the doctor said he had. I guess we'll never know now will we?

Twice as many people die every year from medical malpractice as die in automobile accidents. I simply don't trust their diagnoses completely. I'm an Engineer. If I diagnose a machine wrong, the most that happens is I break some part of the machine and we replace it. A doctor makes a mistake...you bury that mistake.

[kidd]

Aside from total Chastity, humans are going to have sex outside of marriage. Until they find a partner to marry and produce children with, would it not be better to use contraception? In the perfect world you speak of, no one would have sex outside of marriage. However, we know, humans are not perfect.

The European French are learning (the hard way) the consequences of this line of reasoning.

[Night Hides Not]

Very reminiscent of NAZI tactics prior to WWII, wouldn't you say?

Yes. Just don't make me look at the ovens...

Sorry...these pictures are posted to all of those intellectually dishonest DUmmies who cast out the term "Nazi" with reckless abandon, or feel so comfortable equating President Bush with Adolf Hitler.

A survivor stokes smoldering human remains in a crematorium oven that is still lit. (April 29 - May 1, 1945)

[kara37]

That really is not true. Amnio tests are 100% accurate, as long as they don't mix up the patents lab results.
By the way, that is exactly what they did with a friend of mine.

[Night Hides Not]

My heart breaks for the loss of that innocent life.

We also said no to an amniocentesis on our third child, and have been blessed. I wish I could give a copy of this poem to anyone considering terminating a pregnancy. It's from an old post from several years ago, it still brings tears to my eyes:

I've Got a Son That Never Came

I've got a son that never came.
One that flew kites and arrow-planes.
One that danced in the springtime rains.
Don't know why or who's to blame.
But I've got a son that never came.

Bullfrogs and butterflies he'll never see.
He'll stroll through an open field, but not with me.
There was a time his heart beat strong.
It beat with rhythm as in a song.
And to me his love belonged.
Don't know why or what went wrong.
But there was a time his heart beat strong.

It's left in my mind and my heart will tease.
There's no love in my life for my son and me.
Before I had a chance to fight.
They took my son up a flight.
To a room to take his life.
Don't know why I had no rights.
Before I had a chance to fight.

Then five months early they stole him from his womb.
Laid him in a corner and watched him die in his tomb.

But for one split second I thought I heard him cry...
"I'm gonna have to leave you now. I love you Dad. Goodbye."

[wolfcreek]

And you and your spouse have never used contraception?

[Jim Noble]

Nice way to rationalize sex outside of marriage.

Huh? You have me confused with somebody else.

I am anti-fornication.

[It's me]

Well, insofar as we used NFP.

We have five kids.

I guess we could have had more.....

[sauropod]

Bogus argument point.

[sauropod]

Because of faulty interpretation or willful misinterpretation.

[Appalled but Not Surprised]

The use of contraceptives is mortally sinful regardless of circumstances.

Based on what? What verse in the Bible says that?>>

Humanae Vitae, 1968. Also, the bit about "thou shalt not kill"

[sauropod]

Humanae Vitae, 1968 is not a Bible verse.

Also, the bit about "thou shalt not kill"

By your logic, you should be starving to death. You either eat something that is still living (plants) or something that once lived - meat, fish, etc.

[Appalled but Not Surprised]

Hello. Birth control pills kill.

And if I relied on Bible verses alone for my moral authority, I'd be burning witches and killing Amelekites for fun and prophet.

[imintrouble]

The topic was about a child lost before born because of a diagnosis of Down Syndrome. The topic was about the mother's thoughts.

Every time the topic of abortion appears, the debate becomes one of religious doctrine,SIN, chastity, birth control or not, leaving out the topic or destoying it completely. Much of the dialogue becomes angry and righteous. It seems out of place when a child has died.

Granted the topic is intertwined with these subjects, but why can't we just have a discussion on the mother's rationale for intervention and abortion, and the interrupted life of the non-born?

Why do we have to get off on such judgmental doctrine - doesn't religious belief offer understanding and love as well?

The woman aborted - her destiny will take of itself regardless of what we debate here....

Sometimes, this religious argument stumps all the human talk we should be having about simple things like love, caring, and sacrifice, and yes, fear of the unknown.

It is what turns me off discussions about abortion because of those who insist we all believe the same things. When that is impossible. We are all unique in our minds and our decisions.