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Thousands in Mass. to get cheaper oil - Delahunt, Chávez broker deal (it might as well be Castro)
Boston Globe ^
| November 20, 2005
| Michael Levenson and Susan Milligan
Posted on 11/20/2005 5:31:04 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: HostileTerritory
Are you saying that Chavez is renting Massachusetts?
61
posted on
11/20/2005 8:36:49 AM PST
by
freema
(Proud Marine Mom)
To: Kolokotronis
The speculators and free trading of oil futures and spot oil make the markets MORE efficient, not less. There's a free market for trading most commodities, and if the US were to shut down these exchanges, the traders would simply move their trading to London, Calgary, Vienna, or whatever country wanted an oil trading exchange. Some country would.
There are essentially four determinants to the cost of heating oil, or any other oil product: 1) the cost of a barrel of oil, 2) the cost to refine, 3) the cost of distribution, and 4) taxes. The US government can do essentially nothing to influence #1. #2 is has some control over by allowing more refineries to be built. #3 it has limited influence. #4 is has complete influence. But like any market, if you let the free market work, then the cost of refining will go down with competition, and the cost of distribution will also go down with distribution. Government intervention is not the solution, it's the problem.
62
posted on
11/20/2005 8:38:57 AM PST
by
Koblenz
(Holland: a very tolerant country. Until someone shoots you on a public street in broad daylight...)
To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
63
posted on
11/20/2005 8:39:33 AM PST
by
freema
(Proud Marine Mom)
To: Wonder Warthog
They could read the good Congressman another act, as well.
64
posted on
11/20/2005 8:40:43 AM PST
by
freema
(Proud Marine Mom)
To: JustDoItAlways
"This is typical of a left-wing dictator."
Please clarify if you are referring to Kennedy or Kerry ! )
65
posted on
11/20/2005 8:41:48 AM PST
by
freema
(Proud Marine Mom)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
We should take a lesson from this. We should stick together the way the communist states stick together.
66
posted on
11/20/2005 9:46:20 AM PST
by
jmaroneps37
(Hey Murtha you jerk, bring the troops home and you bring the war home with them!)
To: HostileTerritory
And I bet you still think the Civil War was fought to free the slaves.
Have you ever traveled outside of Massachusetts?
Have you ever heard of states rights?
Do you realize if not for the southern states you would be sending 70% to Washington.
Typical northeast elitist. You probably" summer" at Martha's Vineyard.
67
posted on
11/20/2005 9:58:01 AM PST
by
babydoll22
(If you stop growing as a person you live in your own private hell.)
To: Kolokotronis
The Republicans would never do that, would they? I seem to remember something about a bridge up in Alaska, but I am getting older, maybe I'm wrong. Then there's that "immigration reform" we've all heard of from the administration. Money for votes???!!! My friend, that's what politicians do and it makes little difference whether they are Rs or Ds.
So the way I read it, you see nothing wrong with making a deal with a leftist dictator wannabe, who wishes harm to the US, huh? Chavez is scum! There are a great many people I refuse to do business with in this world due to there complete lack of ethics. Is it your opinion it should not matter? You don't think this Rat politician is playing fast and loose with the emotions of his poorer constituents? Pretty lousy thing to do, if you ask me.
I consider Chavez real close to being an enemy of the US. Doing business with the enemy is treason, period! Sure seems like it doesn't matter to the DimWits doesn't it? As an American Patriot, I frown on doing business with the likes of Chavez, so should our Reps and Senators. That Mass. is willing to, says volumes about their ethics, they have none. But I knew that already.
68
posted on
11/20/2005 9:58:46 AM PST
by
Allosaurs_r_us
(I can't use the cell phone in the car. I have to keep my hands free for making obscene gestures)
To: Allosaurs_r_us
Last time I looked at the donor lists, Citgo and Valero seemed to be the big contributors to Republican candidates my friend. Indeed since the late 1980s, 74% of the oil industry's political contributions have gone to Republicans. Citgo and Valero are controled by the Chavez government.
"Sure seems like it doesn't matter to the DimWits doesn't it?"
Apparently it doesn't bother the Rs either.
69
posted on
11/20/2005 10:17:12 AM PST
by
Kolokotronis
(Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
To: peyton randolph
You SO GET IT! This is war.
70
posted on
11/20/2005 1:59:39 PM PST
by
Kitten Festival
(The thug of Caracas has got to go.)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
The CAFTA national-security issue was real.
This is why I back a full amnesty to any non-criminal illegal aliens here from Mexico and El Salvador. We HAVE GOT TO SHORE UP FOX and help Tony Saca. We have got to increase their political power and leverage, and if legalizing these dolts does it, I am for it. I want Chavez in a cell. I want him overthrown. I want him out of the picture. And I want Castro dead and in hell. If we don't help the rightwing leaders down there, people like Fox and Saca, Chavez will take advantage. I don't want to even think about it. Just let the aliens stay and deal a blow to Chavez. Any blow we can do, we have got to do. We have got to fight him as hard as he is fighting us.
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posted on
11/20/2005 2:04:23 PM PST
by
Kitten Festival
(The thug of Caracas has got to go.)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
These idiots going to refine it for them, too? Snort.
72
posted on
11/20/2005 2:05:11 PM PST
by
mewzilla
(Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
To: Kolokotronis
You are missing the point. It's not about cash-shoveling to congressional campaigns, it's about buying votes for leftist congressmen in inner cities. BY A FOREIGN POWER federated with Fidel Castro.
WHEN WILL AMERICA WAKE UP????????
73
posted on
11/20/2005 2:07:25 PM PST
by
Kitten Festival
(The thug of Caracas has got to go.)
To: Red Boots
F'ING BULLSEYE!
You get it. You should put 'get it' as your signature because you just plain do.
74
posted on
11/20/2005 2:10:22 PM PST
by
Kitten Festival
(The thug of Caracas has got to go.)
To: peyton randolph
...Coast Guard interdiction of all its ships. If all paperwork not perfect, deny entry to the U.S. I'm sure that between customs law and "admiralty law," there is plenty that can be used. <<<
Oh Yes!!...."Admiralty Law"....isn't that the law that authorizes the gold fringe on the American flag??????...What does that represent?...Is that the flag that is in White House..the Federal and State court rooms?...Is that the representation flag of the "Admiralty laws" that supersedes the Constitution?....Any body have any Information on this???....I'm confused on what the Gold fringe represents...
75
posted on
11/20/2005 3:53:56 PM PST
by
M-cubed
To: Koblenz
There's a free market for trading most commodities<<<
Yup..With Rules that address the ability to fullfill a contract...Ever wonder why Big Institutions can "short" more gold and silver then exists????...Cant do that with any other commodity!!!!!...If you know why..I'd luv to be enlightened...(Food for Thought)
76
posted on
11/20/2005 4:28:32 PM PST
by
M-cubed
(Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
To: Cincinatus' Wife
They also accept Rubles and Yuan!
To: SheLion
Maine?..Don't Worry!...The gold-dust twins will put on "Official Chavez knee pads" if given the chance...
78
posted on
11/20/2005 4:46:41 PM PST
by
M-cubed
(Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
To: Cincinatus' Wife; Liz
I was recently reading through the FBI's files on Billygate, and there was some discussion of Billy Carter lobbying on Libya's behalf in relation to a company called Charter Crude Oil aka Charter International Oil Co., which had recently bought out Carey Oil, tied to Edward Carey, the brother of New York governor Hugh Carey, whose family controlled the Massachusetts-based Northeast Petroleum/New England Petroleum (affiliated with Cargill). I'm wondering if there's any links to Delahunt's company there.
79
posted on
11/20/2005 4:56:21 PM PST
by
Fedora
To: TheBattman
So who is getting the just over 80% mark-up?<<<
The "NON_PROFIT COMPANY" of course...Gotta pay the directors and workers of the "NON-PROFIT COMPANY!
IF this was really to "help the poor folks", then why such a high mark-up?<<<
See above answer....
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posted on
11/20/2005 4:56:59 PM PST
by
M-cubed
(Why is "Greshams Law" a law?)
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