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To: Lorianne

Doesn't it seem odd that cities like LA, Chicago, and New York are not on this list?


5 posted on 11/21/2005 7:26:00 PM PST by freedom4me (...Error alone needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.--Thomas Jefferson)
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To: freedom4me

New York is listed under safest. I suspect that with huge cities, the massive suburbs, with lower crime, tend to cancel out the more crime-ridden inner cities. Of course, I've also known of several cities that quit reporting certain types of crime to lower their crime rate.


8 posted on 11/21/2005 7:28:11 PM PST by Richard Kimball (Tenure is the enemy of excellence.)
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To: freedom4me
Doesn't it seem odd that cities like LA, Chicago, and New York are not on this list?

Well, thanks to voting Dinkins out of office, there are probably at least 15,000 people that are now alive who wouldn't be, just in NYC alone.

11 posted on 11/21/2005 7:30:44 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: freedom4me

N.Y.C. has one of THE lowest murder and crime rates, since Ruddy took over.


56 posted on 11/21/2005 8:52:54 PM PST by nopardons
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To: freedom4me

New York especially doesn't deserve to be on the list. It's a much safer place than most imagine.


63 posted on 11/21/2005 8:58:27 PM PST by Melas (What!? Read or learn something? Why would anyone do that, when they can just go on being stupid)
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To: freedom4me
Doesn't it seem odd that cities like LA, Chicago, and New York are not on this list?

My thoughts exactly... Something is not right here!

118 posted on 11/21/2005 9:55:02 PM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there you will find the face of Islam...)
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To: freedom4me
Doesn't it seem odd that cities like LA, Chicago, and New York are not on this list?

Actually murder and other violent crimes are significantly down in Chicago the past couple of years.

New Efforts to Stop Crime in Chicago Seem to Be Working - August 17, 2005

Quick summary of that article:

A) strategically placed cameras in high-crime areas help cops do their jobs to patrol and make arrests

ELIZABETH BRACKET: One of the other high-tech devices that has helped Chicago police reduce the crime rate is the placement of cameras on the top of light poles in neighborhoods where there is a large amount of known narcotic, gang and firearm related violence.

Sgt. Greg Hoffman - who is one of those in charge of the camera control room - says the cameras can even detect the sound of gunfire.

SGT. GREG HOFFMAN, Chicago Police: What happens is a visual and audible alert is sent to the crime detections specialists (siren) - What happens is the camera will turn in the direction of the gunshot report and zoom in on that location.

B) Intervention by non-profit community agencies

New policing strategies, though effective, are not the only methods being credited for lowering the murder rate in Chicago. Non-profit community organizations have also intervened to stop the violence. One of the most effective is a group called CeaseFire.

CeaseFire Illinois is a non-profit group with 70 paid workers who go into high-risk areas to try to reduce violence. Two-thirds of its funding comes from the state of Illinois.

C) Parolees are required to take a class = tough talk and interagency coordination

ELIZABETH BRACKET: The neighborhoods CeaseFire works in have seen a rising number of gang members return to the street after serving time in prison. It's estimated that 21,000 inmates will get out of Illinois prisons this year. That's why Chicago police, in cooperation with law enforcement from Cook County, the state of Illinois and the federal government, are also zeroing in on those neighborhoods with a new program dubbed Project Safe Neighborhoods. The project is very visible on billboards, radio and TV in the designated areas.

TV AD: Go to jail for a gun crime, and your family serves the sentence with you.

ELIZABETH BRACKET: Parolees in the targeted areas are required to attend meetings, where they face law enforcement representatives. A University of Chicago study found that only seven, or 1 percent, of the 700 who attended have committed another crime. One of the coordinators of Project Safe neighborhoods is David Hoffman, an assistant U.S. Attorney in the Chicago office.

133 posted on 11/21/2005 10:42:42 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: freedom4me
Doesn't it seem odd that cities like LA, Chicago, and New York are not on this list?

NY most certainly is on the list. #4 safest.

Thank you, Rudy!

142 posted on 11/22/2005 3:00:04 PM PST by Jim Noble (Non, je ne regrette rien)
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To: freedom4me



because detroit is the craziest city there is.Trust me i live it.


150 posted on 12/04/2005 10:21:53 PM PST by outlaw187
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