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Just Received My Appointment As Board Member of the Selective Service (Vanity)
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Posted on 11/23/2005 7:44:29 PM PST by Archangelsk

And you can be damn certain that I will be a very hard sell on anyone asking for deferment if, God forbid, we institute a draft.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: boardmember; prudent; ssa
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To: Archangelsk

Congratulations!


51 posted on 11/23/2005 8:18:17 PM PST by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires.)
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To: softwarecreator

Thank you.


52 posted on 11/23/2005 8:19:27 PM PST by Archangelsk (Handbasket, hell. Get used to the concept.)
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To: Archangelsk

Congratulations.


53 posted on 11/23/2005 8:19:57 PM PST by freekitty
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To: freekitty

Thank you.


54 posted on 11/23/2005 8:20:17 PM PST by Archangelsk (Handbasket, hell. Get used to the concept.)
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To: Archangelsk

It's always good to hear of someone achieving their goals ... you have reason to be proud.


55 posted on 11/23/2005 8:20:52 PM PST by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires.)
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To: Archangelsk
What about this guy?
56 posted on 11/23/2005 8:22:46 PM PST by KarinG1 (Some of us are trying to engage in philosophical discourse. Please don't allow us to interrupt you.)
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To: KarinG1

Arlo Guthrie? Is he still around?


57 posted on 11/23/2005 8:24:09 PM PST by Archangelsk (Handbasket, hell. Get used to the concept.)
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To: Archangelsk

I take it then that you're in the Reserves.


58 posted on 11/23/2005 8:24:26 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: hole_n_one

Was. Out now. Not enough points to retire.


59 posted on 11/23/2005 8:25:15 PM PST by Archangelsk (Handbasket, hell. Get used to the concept.)
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To: hole_n_one

Active duty for a decade.


60 posted on 11/23/2005 8:25:43 PM PST by Archangelsk (Handbasket, hell. Get used to the concept.)
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To: Archangelsk
Ahhhhh, points.

Now I get it.

61 posted on 11/23/2005 8:26:12 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: hole_n_one

No pay, compensation or renumeration with the appointment. That includes points. (It's a civilian position).


62 posted on 11/23/2005 8:27:17 PM PST by Archangelsk (Handbasket, hell. Get used to the concept.)
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To: Archangelsk

I'm waiting for the ACLU to force SS to have able bodied women register.


63 posted on 11/23/2005 8:27:25 PM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Semper Paratus

Why? The needs of the services will dictate how a draft is run.


64 posted on 11/23/2005 8:28:11 PM PST by Archangelsk (Handbasket, hell. Get used to the concept.)
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To: Archangelsk
I read that it's a 20 year appointment.

That's quite a committment.

65 posted on 11/23/2005 8:31:02 PM PST by hole_n_one
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To: sargon

As far as I can see, the draft is totally out of date and would do far more harm to the military than ANY measureable benefit.

There just isn't any place to put the so-called "average" kids that our society and educational system have generated in the most basic, dumbed-down unit that's left in the military. In the late 60's, we could figure that a draftee could do a little more than have weight/occupy space after six months' training; I really wouldn't want most of these kids I see working at Micky D's around me with sharp-pointed scissors, let alone a SAW, until they had a couple of YEARS under close supervision.......and, the last time I looked, two years is all we would get to have 'em around.

What do you propose we draft all these people for? Picking up butts?


66 posted on 11/23/2005 8:31:06 PM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet
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To: hole_n_one

Yes it is. Gladly accepted.


67 posted on 11/23/2005 8:31:58 PM PST by Archangelsk (Handbasket, hell. Get used to the concept.)
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To: Archangelsk

Some dimwit DU has created a post about you. fyi


68 posted on 11/23/2005 8:33:42 PM PST by ClarenceThomasfan (I'm not stuck on stupid!)
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To: ClarenceThomasfan

Free country.


69 posted on 11/23/2005 8:34:31 PM PST by Archangelsk (Handbasket, hell. Get used to the concept.)
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To: Archangelsk

The DUmmies have picked up this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5444012


70 posted on 11/23/2005 8:41:45 PM PST by darkangel82 (Never underestimate the stupidity of government.)
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To: darkangel82

As I said above, free country.


71 posted on 11/23/2005 8:43:36 PM PST by Archangelsk (Handbasket, hell. Get used to the concept.)
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To: Archangelsk
Ronald Reagan:

"[T]he most fundamental objection to draft registration is moral...a draft or draft registration destroys the very values that our society is committed to defending."

Although Goldwater supported the war in Vietnam, he opposed the draft in favor of an all-volunteer military.

The Declaration of Independence:

"He [the King] has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures."

Daniel Webster, during the War of 1812:

"Where is it written in the Constitution, in what article or section is it contained, that you may take children from their parents, and parents from their children, and compel them to fight the battles of any war, in which the folly or the wickedness of Government may engage it?"


The draft, said candidate Reagan, "rests on the assumption that your kids belong to the state.... That assumption isn't a new one. The Nazis thought it was a great idea."
 

Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX):

"Conscription is not part of the American dream. It is not part of the American philosophy. It is not part of liberty. It is a totalitarian notion. Congress has the authority to raise an army, but it does not have the constitutional authority to enslave a certain group to bear the brunt of the fighting. A society that cherishes liberty will easily find volunteer defenders if it is attacked. A free society that cannot find those willing to defend itself without coercion cannot survive, and probably does not deserve to."

72 posted on 11/23/2005 8:48:30 PM PST by streetpreacher (If at the end of the day, 100% of both sides are not angry with me, I've failed.)
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To: streetpreacher

And yet it's hard to argue that the will of the people during WW II proved that a draft can be successful. As I've said during this thread, instituting a draft now is a "God forbid" scenario.


73 posted on 11/23/2005 8:53:32 PM PST by Archangelsk (Handbasket, hell. Get used to the concept.)
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To: darkangel82

"The DUmmies have picked up this thread"



Let 'em come.

Maybe some of them will hang around long enough to read something that will cause them to grow a brain.


74 posted on 11/23/2005 8:56:04 PM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet
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To: Archangelsk

Good job. I looked into it earlier but can't serve on a board due to the year restrictions. I missed it by 3 months. I'm still trying to figure out why. There was no draft when I joined. My guess is they wanted a certain minimum age on the boards.


75 posted on 11/23/2005 8:59:32 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: bigsigh
How much to have my birthday moved down the list?

ROFLMAO. As if...

76 posted on 11/23/2005 9:00:42 PM PST by Howlin ("Victory is not a strategy. " ``Jack Murtha 11/18/05)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Thank you. Apply anyway and see what happens.


77 posted on 11/23/2005 9:04:47 PM PST by Archangelsk (Handbasket, hell. Get used to the concept.)
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To: Archangelsk

I can accept that.
But, by God, there will be no conscription ever again in this country unless and until we have exhausted the pool of the willing and able.
I had to work with the dregs of the draft, and I say our armed forces sacrifice more than enough, and do not deserve to be forced to contend with them .


78 posted on 11/23/2005 9:11:57 PM PST by sarasmom ("The French are revolting." Some phrases are true on so many levels, it's mystical!)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

LOL! Is that possible?


79 posted on 11/23/2005 9:12:06 PM PST by darkangel82 (Never underestimate the stupidity of government.)
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To: sarasmom

Unfortunately, the Army is now accepting Cat IVs and they are starting to look at Cat Vs. This does not bode well.


80 posted on 11/23/2005 9:15:56 PM PST by Archangelsk (Handbasket, hell. Get used to the concept.)
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To: Archangelsk
According to 'Dead or Alive?' he isn't dead yet. I was just wondering for, umm, academic reasons if somebody like that would get a deferment.
81 posted on 11/23/2005 9:31:17 PM PST by KarinG1 (Some of us are trying to engage in philosophical discourse. Please don't allow us to interrupt you.)
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To: Archangelsk

That sucks.
I have family that enlisted in the the Army.
Against my advice.
....
....
OK, I will join the Army.
Waive the age restrictions, as long as the physical requirements are met.
I swear I am not seeking an early retirement!


82 posted on 11/23/2005 9:50:08 PM PST by sarasmom ("The French are revolting." Some phrases are true on so many levels, it's mystical!)
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To: Archangelsk

RE: infantry commander. Absolutely. Then again, you're a civilian dealing with the civilian side of things. For me, that would be a tough thing to do. Not the clearcut cases -- you know, the guys who are obviously fit or obviously unfit, but the cases that are tough calls. Those would hang on me.


83 posted on 11/23/2005 11:56:42 PM PST by mumps
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To: hole_n_one

Anyone who serves 20 plus years of active duty. After 30 years you go into the inactive reserves.


84 posted on 11/24/2005 1:36:10 AM PST by ONETWOONE (onetwoone)
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To: Howlin

Thanx for seeing the humor. Best wishes!


85 posted on 11/24/2005 6:02:40 AM PST by bigsigh
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To: Archangelsk

You mean, you have no personal position? What will you say to parents who have raised their children under very certain and specific biblical convictions regarding the home and family, and the distinction in roles, and the importance of the woman in the home?


86 posted on 11/24/2005 6:10:49 AM PST by Free Baptist
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To: Archangelsk

I'll be sixty next year. Can I have a deferment, pretty please?


87 posted on 11/24/2005 6:14:11 AM PST by DugwayDuke (Stupidity can be a self-correcting problem.)
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To: Archangelsk
I have read LOVE MY RIFLE MORE THAN YOU, YOUNG AND FEMALE IN THE U.S. ARMY, by Kayla Williams, a former female Army enlisted soldier, who recently served in Iraq during Operation Enduring Freedom (e.g since 2002). (New York, W.W. Norton & Company, Inc., 2005). I have taken careful notes. I served 6-1/2 years in the U.S. Air Force and was an NCO in Charge of a Civil Engineering structural section where females served. I saw the females on the flight lines and in the (male) barracks.

We have four daughters. One is weapons trained. I will train the others as they get old enough. Although they are being taught to love their country, and to be willing to die for it, they will NOT ever be inducted into the U.S. Military and be exposed to the disgusting disrespect for womanhood and Christian morality that exists therein.

We keep enough contact with people in our districts congressional office to know that a military draft (the pros and cons)is a regular topic of discussion in the halls of Congress, and added to this discussion nowadays is the element of "What about females...if we do 'awaken' a draft?" Any of us would be very foolish to think that there are not those in high places in these United States who want the further social experimentation that would be forced by a draft of women.

Letters from our elected Representatives state only that "last year we voted against a draft," and the answer is with an elitist attitude, and perhaps with them thinking that we are so stupid to think that they couldn't re-institute a draft this year or the next. What they voted against last year, they might approve this year, or next. Never do they state any moral position on the matter---just that they haven't voted to reinstate a draft...YET. And they (Congressman and Senators)all but refuse to answer our questions in writing with regard to women in the military.

There are probably hundreds of thousands of parents who are prepared to resist the calling-up of our daughters. We are PATRIOTS. What kind of nation is this that we are willing to die for when it sends its MOTHERS WITH CHILDREN into combat zones, which we certainly do now in Iraq.
88 posted on 11/24/2005 7:26:40 AM PST by Free Baptist
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To: Archangelsk

My hope is that you clean up this ridiculous hole in the system. Posted on a prior thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1347418/posts

To: RockinRye
I have a Kafkaesque experience with this nightmare bureaucracy. I fulfilled my obligation to register for the draft when I was a teenager, but I do not have any evidence of it, I just didn't think about that part. When I tried to apply for loans during school, I was told that I wasn't registered for the draft. No problem, I'll just register. They told me I was too OLD to register for the draft. I was consequently never able to prove that I fulfilled the requirements and I never got any school loans. I probably will never get a guvmint job.

I agree with Reagan that we should have an all-volunteer army except in times of declared war. And I also agree that this is a sexist policy because women are not required to register. But the thing that really bites is that a person should be allowed to re-register if the paperwork gets "lost".



40 posted on 02/21/2005 4:02:52 PM PST by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)


89 posted on 11/24/2005 3:35:11 PM PST by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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To: ONETWOONE

I didn't retire. I got out after 8 long years that went by fast just the same.

They're subject to recall until they're 60, BTW.


90 posted on 11/26/2005 7:37:50 PM PST by lastmanstanding (PLAME WAS A SECRETARY, NOTJAMES BOND! Let Libby go free.)
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