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Things the 60s Got Right
LA Times ^ | 11/25/2005 | David Gelertner

Posted on 11/26/2005 3:11:47 AM PST by Neville72

A GENERATION HAS passed since I went to college. Today's college students understand that things have changed in many ways — some good, some not. But one change is glaring and tragic. The change I mean is that nowadays so many students are obsessed with their careers. (This is strictly my own personal observation — as a college teacher of long-standing, and of declining optimism.)

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: babyboomers
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1 posted on 11/26/2005 3:11:48 AM PST by Neville72
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To: Neville72

I hated the 60's and all of it's 'spawn'...


2 posted on 11/26/2005 3:13:54 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Neville72

Why does the LA Times even bother ?


3 posted on 11/26/2005 3:17:31 AM PST by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: Neville72
David Gelertner is not a "liberal puke." He is a conservative, and one of the most thoughtful essayists around.

Did you even read the entire article you posted? He is lamenting the loss of the days when college-educated women stayed home to raise their children! He is pointing out that feminism has equated powerful corporate positions with success as a human being.

What is liberal about that?

4 posted on 11/26/2005 3:18:34 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Molly Pitcher

Here is another column by our favorite essayist. Ignore the comments from some here, as they obviously haven't read the article.


5 posted on 11/26/2005 3:20:04 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Miss Marple

Amen - Gelerntner is not mourning the passing of the late Sixties like some burned-out hippie leftover might.

But - the social and political upheaval after around 1966 had been immediately preceeded by decades of family-centered values.

How were those cast aside so suddenly and completely?

Gelerntner is not the only one to still not know.


6 posted on 11/26/2005 3:35:19 AM PST by elcid1970
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To: Neville72

"The change I mean is that nowadays so many students are obsessed with their careers."

Translation: Damn it, why won't as many of these young let us misinform them!


7 posted on 11/26/2005 3:39:16 AM PST by TeddyCon
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To: Neville72; Admin Moderator

I would ask the Mods to change the title--this writer is not a "Liberal Puke" and his article is not what you imply.


8 posted on 11/26/2005 3:50:14 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: elcid1970
You know, I graduated from high school in the Midwest in 1966, so I lived through this upheaval. It was a terrible time to have children (my son was born in 1968) because you were denigrated for having children. When my son was born I was an Air Force wife living in Berlin. One of the other wives (college educated in New York) actually called me a "brood mare."

I lived through the campus demonstrations (went back to school in 1972) and all of the subsequent social changes as a young woman.

Looking back, I can see that a great deal of it was media driven, with a concerted effort by the left to USE the media to shape public opinion. I imagine the effect was even more pronounced in places far from Indianapolis, but it was felt even here.

Remember the Time magazine covers of that era? God is dead. The rise of the youth culture. The new woman. Constant mocking of traditional values, constant feeding the rebellious nature of youth, constant efforts to undermine the family. They succeeded to a certain extent, and our society is the poorer for it.

Now the effort is being made to portray all people of my generation as selfish Boomers who never cared about anything but themselves. Again the media tries to undermine family ties, sow discord, and mock anything good in this country. They are systematically trying to undermine confidence in the military, traditional Christianity, scouting, etc.

That's my opinion, anyway. Gelertner is right. We won't go back to 1960, but we are not necessarily a better nation because of the "progress" we thing we have made.

9 posted on 11/26/2005 3:55:06 AM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Neville72
As a little kid at the time, I looked at pictures from Woodstock and wondered, "Who is going to clean up this mess?".

The 60's was the ugly decade.

10 posted on 11/26/2005 3:58:43 AM PST by 6SJ7
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To: Neville72

What the 60's got right?? Ummmm, well, I was born in 1969. So that worked out ok.

;-)


11 posted on 11/26/2005 4:00:44 AM PST by kb2614 (Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned.)
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To: AmericaUnited

"I hated the 60's and all of it's 'spawn'..."

You must love the ads for "Ameriprise", which is apparently promoting itself as a financial planning agency for old Hippies. The ads feature footage of dancing flower children and hippie music. I can't wait for one of these A-holes to call me looking for business. I'll tell them what to do their hippie ad campaign.


12 posted on 11/26/2005 4:00:53 AM PST by BadAndy (Note to Democrats: Benedict Arnold also called himself a patriot.)
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To: Neville72

The only good thing to come out of the 60's was the miniskirt.


13 posted on 11/26/2005 4:01:23 AM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Neville72

In our family, we had the privilege of having my wife stay home to educate our children all the way thru high school. Since the youngest left home last summer, we have said over and over that we would do it exactly the same way if we had to do it again. BTW, my wife has a master's degree.


14 posted on 11/26/2005 4:06:31 AM PST by aardvark1 (Eschew obfuscation.)
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To: AmericaUnited

The 60's were a vast test of psychology using a huge number of lab rats in human form. What happens when we abolish most moral restrictions (against sexual behavior that does not lead to monogamous family formation, against use of hallucinatory drugs for recreational purposes, against civil obedience), and just let the mind unfold?

We get some pretty weirdly formed thought patterns, that's what. Unable or unwilling to form logical conclusions, some pretty bizarre beliefs spring up among these newly feral creatures that were born human, and were transformed into parodies of humanity.

After these prolonged tests, it is found that the lab rats can no longer be allowed among the normal population of rats, as the more normal rats set upon them and either drive them into isolation, or cause the ones that remain to conform to the basic norms of the rest of the population.


15 posted on 11/26/2005 4:19:29 AM PST by alloysteel (Payback and reality may not be related, but they can both be a b*tch.)
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To: Miss Marple

You're right, of course, that the media-aided counterculture partially succeeded in negatively transforming our society for all time.

I too, graduated from high school in 1966. However, I attended The Citadel. Four years of military culture mostly insulated us as cadets from the youth `revolution' which seemed to be happening in a far distant land.

But look around - the military is popular like not since WWII. Evangelical Christianity is resurgent. Liberals no longer dominate but must contend toe-to-toe with conservatives on every point (though the Academy is hostage to the far Left). The USSR is gone, and our most dangerous enemy is a religion, not an ideology.

Only The New York Times regards the late Sixties as a `golden age'.


16 posted on 11/26/2005 4:22:12 AM PST by elcid1970
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To: BadAndy

I half smirk, and half sneer, every time i see that
commercial..."They're not going out like that!"...
Hah!


17 posted on 11/26/2005 4:25:13 AM PST by Baby Driver
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To: ZULU

and the Space Program ...


18 posted on 11/26/2005 4:29:35 AM PST by Mr. C
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To: Mr. C
I had a young secretary once who said, the 60's must have been a wonderful time!

I responded that it was such a time of upheaval, division, hatred that I considered it the worst decade of my life (I graduated hs in '65)

she was kind of shocked.

19 posted on 11/26/2005 4:41:11 AM PST by cb
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To: Neville72

Things the 60's got right.....cool cars (not as many as the 50's but there were several), James Bond books and soul music....the rest can go in the dumpster....


20 posted on 11/26/2005 4:41:55 AM PST by NRA1995 (When liberals speak I hear the Vonage music playing.....woo-hoo, woo-hoo-hoo....)
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