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To: DTogo

Not only am I dead serious, I am also right. :)

Most of the 'problems' you speak of are problems of socialism, not immigration. Priorities.

Some thoughts on the subject:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1503496/posts#71

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1237232/posts?q=1&&page=190#190

The only valid point you make, IMO, is regarding terrorism, the borders need to be secure for that.



14 posted on 11/26/2005 2:41:46 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/french_riots.htm)
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To: traviskicks
I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, wind-swept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace, a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity, and if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it, and see it still.

Debasing Reagan's speech. Nowhere does it say illegal alien.

15 posted on 11/26/2005 3:06:56 PM PST by raybbr
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To: traviskicks
If government did not give itself the power to restrict immigration, a private company could hire who they wanted to and pay them what they wanted to to work on their factory/farm here in the US.

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

From the Constitution. Congress has always had the power to regulate immigration. It has not needed to grow bigger to do so.

In your world are there any borders? If not, why not?

16 posted on 11/26/2005 3:13:04 PM PST by raybbr
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To: traviskicks
Most of the 'problems' you speak of are problems of socialism, not immigration. Priorities... I'm also in favor of letting anyone who can get here on their own free will into the country.

So if someone wants to set up shop on the street and sell moonshine or homebrew for cash, too bad for the liquor store that has to buy LEGAL booze and pay sales tax.

If one grocery store buys meat directly from a rancher, too bad for the stores that have to buy it LEGALLY from the slaughterhouses where it's FDA approved.

And I guess we should just let Merck sell whatever they can put on the drugstore shelf of their own free will.

Maybe we should allow thieves to take whatever than can get out banks of their own free will.

Or allow rapists to have at any woman they can grab of their own free will.

Who needs laws and borders? They just cause problems of socialism...

20 posted on 11/26/2005 5:25:27 PM PST by DTogo (Merry CHRISTmas, and a healthy & happy New Year!)
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