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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 27 November 2005
Various big media television networks ^ | 27 November 2005 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 11/27/2005 5:10:25 AM PST by Alas Babylon!

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As always, soliciting FReeper comments, observations, and opinions.

Biden makes it three Sundays in a row!

1 posted on 11/27/2005 5:10:27 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!
Morning! Hope y'all had a good T-Day and had much to be thankful for!



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2 posted on 11/27/2005 5:14:24 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Alas Babylon!
John Warner, Joe Biden, David Broder, David Gregory, Eugene Robinson, & Judy Woodruff - 1 RINO and 6 Liberals. Nice going Russert. Why even pretend show of balance in guest selection, right? Did Mrs.Greenspan refuse to appear on the round-table?

Seventy percent of people surveyed said that criticism of the war by Democratic senators hurts troop morale

Let 's see if Russert confronts Biden with this Wash.Post poll story


Democrats fumed last week at Vice President Cheney's suggestion that criticism of the administration's war policies was itself becoming a hindrance to the war effort. But a new poll indicates most Americans are sympathetic to Cheney's point.

Seventy percent of people surveyed said that criticism of the war by Democratic senators hurts troop morale -- with 44 percent saying morale is hurt "a lot," according to a poll taken by RT Strategies. Even self-identified Democrats agree: 55 percent believe criticism hurts morale, while 21 percent say it helps morale.

The results surely will rankle many Democrats, who argue that it is patriotic and supportive of the troops to call attention to what they believe are deep flaws in President Bush's Iraq strategy. But the survey itself cannot be dismissed as a partisan attack. The RTs in RT Strategies are Thomas Riehle, a Democrat, and Lance Tarrance, a veteran GOP pollster.

Their poll also indicates many Americans are skeptical of Democratic complaints about the war. Just three of 10 adults accept that Democrats are leveling criticism because they believe this will help U.S. efforts in Iraq. A majority believes the motive is really to "gain a partisan political advantage." There is still support for Bush's policy going forward. A plurality, 49 percent, believe that troops should come home only when the Iraqi government can provide for its own security, while 16 percent support immediate withdrawal, regardless of the circumstances.



3 posted on 11/27/2005 5:15:13 AM PST by anita
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To: Alas Babylon!

Is there anyone less important to the national debate than "Plugs" Biden?

Thanks AB


4 posted on 11/27/2005 5:17:36 AM PST by Pusterfuss (Proud member: Minnesotans for Global Warming)
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Hugh Hewitt calls Biden & Russert's bluff

Biden and Koppel are part of a deeply entrenched D.C. elite that have enjoyed a decades-long pass from elite media, an absolution for idiotic statements, and an exemption from hard questions about those statements.

One of the reasons that Koppel's show has slowly fallen into irrelevance from which it was rescued only by distasteful explotiatation of the heroes of the GWOT is not the left-wing bias so much as its almost complete avoidance of hard questions and serious conversation about serious things. The same is true for Charlie Rose and Tim Russert and just about every wheezing talking head that used to matter. They don't press the left, really press the left.

If they did, of course, Joe Biden would shatter like the Christmas light ornament hitting the driveway. So would Koppel. So would they all.

..............The reason the House action of eight days ago was so warmly received by the GOP base --and so distasteful to the Beltway-- was that it refused to enable this cloistered left. By stripping the rhetoric to its bare essential --immediate withdrawal-- the Democrats and their pals with microphones and keyboards had to factor in clarioty and they ran for cover.

.............MSM would also benefit if it demanded of a new generation of anchors the sort of tough questions and editorial policies that reflect neither left nor right but a determination to force con men like Biden and Koppel to actually defend their absurd statements. The questions don't have to be intemperate or discourteous, just determined and informed. And though the hosts might have a few less dinner invites, the subscriptions and ratings would follow.

5 posted on 11/27/2005 5:21:12 AM PST by anita
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To: Alas Babylon!; The Drowning Witch
Ahhhhhh........

The usual suspects....

6 posted on 11/27/2005 5:22:41 AM PST by Jackknife ( "I bet after seeing us, George Washington would sue us for calling him 'father'." —Will Rogers)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Meet the Depressed will hammer on the "latest" Allawi diatribe about how Human rights abuses in Iraq now are as bad, or worse, than they when Saddam Hussein was in power.

Biden and Warner will be "deeply concerned".

Bet on it.


7 posted on 11/27/2005 5:23:36 AM PST by Chuck54 (Free Scooter, Indict Joe W)
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To: anita
Democrats fumed last week at Vice President Cheney's suggestion that criticism of the administration's war policies was itself becoming a hindrance to the war effort. But a new poll indicates most Americans are sympathetic to Cheney's point.

This will be the MSM's new front in the War Against the Administration. They will begin their propoganda pieces tomorrow, with segments explaining to the public how RAT criticism is actually good for the troops and the war effort.After six weeks of hammering this point home, a new poll will be released showing the public supports RAT criticism and believes it good for the troops and the war effort.

8 posted on 11/27/2005 5:26:22 AM PST by capydick ("A good conscience is a continual Christmas")
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See the new Pew Poll (! ) - People vs Media-clerics

"Efforts to establish a stable democracy" in Iraq

Will succeed - 56% public believe
Will fail - 63% media clerics believe

Going to war in Iraq

Correct - 48% public believe
Wrong - 71% media clerics

Iraq war has helped or hurt the war on terrorism

Helped - 44% public believe
Hurt - 68% media clerics believe

Torture of terrorist suspects

often or sometimes justified - 46% public believe
rarely or never justified - 78% media clerics believe

Bush's job performance

42% public approve
21% media clerics approve

To Fox's credit, they discussed this poll several times. But, their "media analyst" Marvin Kalb justified that "journalists" always skeptical and that 's why their view differs from public.

Well, 80% of public believe that gay marriage is wrong. 90% of people believe in God. 95% of people believe America is a great country and fee patriotic on July 4. These are facts. there is nothing to be skeptical about real facts.

Heartland America is not Pakistani Madrassas to indoctrinate their views on peoples' mind.

9 posted on 11/27/2005 5:28:50 AM PST by anita
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Thanks for the thread, AB, but I can't seem to work up much enthusiasm for listening to any of the guests.


10 posted on 11/27/2005 5:30:01 AM PST by Carolinamom
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To: anita
The questions don't have to be intemperate or discourteous, just determined and informed.

Brit Hume, for example. I think that many on the left do not want to be interviewed by this ever polite, ever well informed man.

11 posted on 11/27/2005 5:32:25 AM PST by Bahbah (Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
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To: Alas Babylon!
Round up the usual suspects.

Where's McCrazy? Did his personal makeup artist take a day off?
12 posted on 11/27/2005 5:34:08 AM PST by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: Bahbah

Yeah, his grapevine is usually nightmare for them.


13 posted on 11/27/2005 5:35:21 AM PST by anita
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To: Alas Babylon!

Ugh...


14 posted on 11/27/2005 5:37:00 AM PST by johnny7 (“You have a corpse in a car, minus a head, in the garage. Take me to it.”)
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Joe Biden on a Sunday talk show? Will wonders never cease...


15 posted on 11/27/2005 5:37:18 AM PST by NautiNurse
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I'm sooo happy to see something new on top of Breaking News.


16 posted on 11/27/2005 5:38:27 AM PST by RobFromGa (Polls are for people who can't think for themselves.)
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Whit Ayres and Doug Schoen, political pollsters.

Ahhh...makers of news.

17 posted on 11/27/2005 5:38:30 AM PST by evad
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You mean McCain? On Today show the other day (before McCain's book promotion appearance), Russert said McCain is straight talking maverik & conservatives had warmed to him. Then Mathews came - only McCain has credibility. Then came Howard Fineman and said McCain is the only remaining GOP hope for 2008.

Let's see. Conservatives are for McCain. Liberals like McCain. Centrists love McCain. Maveriks love McCain. Looks like McCain would come close to being elected by acclamation, in MSM's spin.

Then again, the Reality check here

18 posted on 11/27/2005 5:39:46 AM PST by anita
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To: Alas Babylon!

Has Biden been on the Sunday shows more than McCain this year?


19 posted on 11/27/2005 5:40:23 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: RobFromGa
I'm sooo happy to see something new on top of Breaking News.

LOL. I know. I felt like I was in a time warp.

20 posted on 11/27/2005 5:40:44 AM PST by Bahbah (Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
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