Posted on 11/28/2005 11:40:43 AM PST by bloggodocio
Woof!
Somoyeds?! That's really, really cruel!
Why?
I mean, why is it any more cruel to wear a dog than it is to wear a fox or mink?
Dognapping is a regular feature in SE Asian newspapers.
I've personally seen them at work with my own eyes: one guy drives the motorcycle, and the guy behind him grabs the dog. They swoop in behind the dog and grab it in such a manner that the "napper" doesn't get bitten. But the one time I saw it, it was in front of a crowded cafe, and the dog made *a lot* of noise.
Last I recall, they were paid $5 to $8 per dog, which is then sold in the restaurant for $20. That's a very large sum for a meal in SE Asia.
By the way, this is a Chinese thing, and Hanoi. Not real popular outside those groups.
Ugh - i don't think the descriptions here are anything I'd like to share with dog lovers.
It's a "guy thing". The meat is supposed to be spicy, and there's some drinking connected with it.
This thread is not for the squeamish. It's a cultural investigation.
This was distributed directly to kids by the PETA. You can even watch a video of it on their site.
Why? Well, because Samoyeds are great dogs; friendly, strong, brave, perserverent, good with children, loyal. Great companions. Why would I want them killed for their fur when you can make similar stuff in a factory??
Instead, How bout we take ten of your best human friends and skin them for their hair, to make wigs out of (fake wigs are no fun) ? Only we won't kill them, since that would be mean.
Let me see if I get the liberal mindset. Forced abortions, using babies bodies for their stem cells, and murder of political dissedents by communists, OK, set up the concert. Use of fur from Dogs and Cats, that is horrible. Stop the planet I want to get off. Skinning an animal alive is wrong, but hardly compares to the real horrors of China.
Whatever... Half the posters thinking whatever Paul says must be wrong because he's Paul, and he's a lefty, Half think he shouldn't care about this as long as people suffer, as if there is only one good cause in life, a few will proclaim that there is no reason not to wear dog, we should all do it, as if we have no higher relationship with dogs in this country than we have with our food, and some will read it and just be saddened.
I guess I'm in the latter. I sometimes get so fed up with the vile product of mankind, I see little worth in the lot of us :~D
Obviously you're a fan of the breed. I picked a fuzzy dog picture at random, it's nothing personal.
Why would I want them killed for their fur when you can make similar stuff in a factory??
Apparently, it's cheaper to use dog and cat fur.
Instead, How bout we take ten of your best human friends and skin them for their hair, to make wigs out of (fake wigs are no fun) ? Only we won't kill them, since that would be mean.
Why don't you dry your eyes, blow your nose, take a deep breath, and reread my post (The first one, where I said I'm not inclined to wear fur), and realize that since I don't buy fur, and don't eat much meat, you don't have to kill my friends to keep your dogs safe.
Oh, so all animals lower than human deserve the same disdain? From the lowly snake to the dog and cat? No credit for human companionship or basic compatability?
Is this in the Bible? I must have missed that particular lesson.
We kill cattle and use the beef for food and hides for upholstered products, we kill hogs and use the pigskin to wrap an oblong ball for that famous anti-islamite Sunday ballgame.
The Chinese kill dogs and cats and use the meat for food (delicacy - not for average fare) and the hides are used for stuffed toys.
Because we've preferred one domesticated specie over another for food doesn't mean we're any different.
"There's a cat in the kettle at the Peking Moon,
A little puppy dog on the end of a spoon.
I'd really rather have beef, chicken, or pork -
but it's right there on my fork. Yea, it's right there on my fork."
You don't have to kill dogs to get access to their fur , either. But thats what they do in China. I think it's SICK, personally.
If animals are being boiled or skinned alive, I find that I have common ground with Sir Paul here. Can these allegations be verified?
As long as you disdain them all equally.
Seriously, though, say you had a pet mink, or fox, or raccoon, that you loved and raised from a tiny baby. If your neighbor's pit bull got hold of it, would you shoot the dog?
Of course you would. It's not the species that matters, but how close the animal is to you.
Is this in the Bible? I must have missed that particular lesson.
You also must have missed the part where I completely fail to bring the Bible into this discussion.
Back in '98, I went through the farmers' market in Guangzhou - before the SARS episode. I SAW them knock a cat unconscious (killed? I don't know) and dip it into a cauldron of about six gallons of boiling water. It was immediately skinned and hanged upon a hook by the sinews of the hind feet.
The last time I was in Guangzhou, the market had been cleaned up, the restaurant (I then thought was a pet shop) no longer had live, caged animals at the entrance.
Wow. So glad that old beatle is on top of that fur thing. We certainly wouldn't want to waste anytime on a silly thing like forced abortions and other lack of human rights over there.
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