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To: Tunehead54
[Ah so! The author was listed as JJ, the poster was JJ so I just assumed ... BTW your post is formatted much better! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OK SB - get to work! Distill it! ;-)]

Thanks for the formatting compliment. Another poster said this thread's format was easier to read!!! I was crushed, I spent like 9 hours combing over that damn thing. As far as distilling it, I'll try to think about it, but I don't think I know how to do it. I got it down to as few points as I thought possible, but if you start having compound labels for the techniques, then it becomes increasingly complicated to convey the actual trick being used to a reading audience.

Remember, if these tricks the writers use were obvious, then they wouldn't work. That means unraveling them necessitates a certain degree of complexity.

I tried to spread that complexity out across a minimum of number of fundamental techniques, then to refer sharply to them on a case-by-case basis until a familiarity with the whole group built up in the reader.

To have just five would be better, of course, but I don't know how to say in just five examples "There, see what the writer's doing this time?".

But I'll ponder your suggestion, and please be sure to share any ideas of your own on how to distill them further.
59 posted on 11/29/2005 6:50:11 PM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: starbase
First off - don't be crushed. I recall posting a "fill-in-the-blank" constitution (based on ours) - hoping to come up with an improved constitution that emerging nations (such as Afghanistan and Iraq) could use as a model (lots of time expended). Maybe 12 posts - where some post asking if Hillary has fat ankles goes into the thousands. Go figure. ;-)

Secondly - no promises - but I'll print out your post and see what might be condensed. I do understand what you're saying - if it was too obvious it would be just that. They have to hide it - subliminally and that requires numerous techniques. Just so you know - my main thought is "the simpler, the better, the most easily conveyed, the better, the most easily remembered, the better, etc.".


Since we're fighting the guys who buy ink by the barrel we've got to make the shots clear, concise and obvious to all. :-)
60 posted on 11/29/2005 7:16:36 PM PST by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: starbase; bert
Another poster said this thread's format was easier to read!!!

I read the same post, AND I think you misread it. I know it confused me. He/she was actually complementing your formatting unless I miss my guess; I know I preferred yours.

Re your offer to post a regular "propaganda" thread on FR. JMO, but most here seem to be wise to the ways of the media manipulators. Their offerings are mostly met with well earned skepticism here. Those on the other side don't and won't care. As long as the TOM(Tired Old Media) carries their water, they're pretty much a gift horse for our degenerate brethren. It wouldn't do for the braindead in our midst to go looking into that mouth now would it?

However, if you do decide to proceed, please add me to the ping list.

FGS

62 posted on 11/29/2005 9:09:13 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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