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To: judgeandjury

Let me suggest that you follow Plutarch's link in #45 and read study the article there. It has a high degree of credibility and contradicts you.


50 posted on 12/02/2005 8:41:25 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
Let me suggest that you follow Plutarch's link in #45 and read study the article there. It has a high degree of credibility and contradicts you.

There is nothing in any article that contradicts the fact that we don't need illegal alien lawbreakers in the United States. If we do need more foreign workers, Congress can increase the number of foreigners who will be allowed to legally immigrate to the United States, even under a guest worker program if necessary.

51 posted on 12/02/2005 12:18:56 PM PST by judgeandjury
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To: Ben Ficklin
Ben, you might also want to peruse this report:

The High Cost of Cheap Labor: Illegal Immigration and the Federal Budget

Its findings include:

Households headed by illegal aliens imposed more than $26.3 billion in costs on the federal government in 2002 and paid only $16 billion in taxes, creating a net fiscal deficit of almost $10.4 billion, or $2,700 per illegal household.

Among the largest costs are Medicaid ($2.5 billion); treatment for the uninsured ($2.2 billion); food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches ($1.9 billion); the federal prison and court systems ($1.6 billion); and federal aid to schools ($1.4 billion).

With nearly two-thirds of illegal aliens lacking a high school degree, the primary reason they create a fiscal deficit is their low education levels and resulting low incomes and tax payments, not their legal status or heavy use of most social services.

On average, the costs that illegal households impose on federal coffers are less than half that of other households, but their tax payments are only one-fourth that of other households.

Many of the costs associated with illegals are due to their American-born children, who are awarded U.S. citizenship at birth. Thus, greater efforts at barring illegals from federal programs will not reduce costs because their citizen children can continue to access them.

If illegal aliens were given amnesty and began to pay taxes and use services like households headed by legal immigrants with the same education levels, the estimated annual net fiscal deficit would increase from $2,700 per household to nearly $7,700, for a total net cost of $29 billion.

Costs increase dramatically because unskilled immigrants with legal status what most illegal aliens would become can access government programs, but still tend to make very modest tax payments.

Although legalization would increase average tax payments by 77 percent, average costs would rise by 118 percent.

The fact that legal immigrants with few years of schooling are a large fiscal drain does not mean that legal immigrants overall are a net drain many legal immigrants are highly skilled.

The vast majority of illegals hold jobs. Thus the fiscal deficit they create for the federal government is not the result of an unwillingness to work.

The results of this study are consistent with a 1997 study by the National Research Council, [whence comes the $89,000 lifetime figure] which also found that immigrants education level is a key determinant of their fiscal impact.

The Bush Guest Worker Program is a modified-limited hangout Amnesty. Illegals will be granted (ostensibly temporary) legal status and a U.S. Government issued I.D., which will provide additional entree to Federal, State and local social welfare programs. It invites even more burden on the taxpayers.

The business interests clamoring for this scheme will rake in all the profit from cheap Mexican labor and depressed wages. We taxpayers will be stuck with the bill.

Please cite a specific and credible study that refutes the two studies I have provided that demonstrate a heavy burden on the taxpayer. Alternatively, accept that illegals/guest workers do burden the taxpayer, and explain why Citizen A should subsidize these uninvited "Guests", so Citizen B can make extra profit.

54 posted on 12/02/2005 5:00:54 PM PST by Plutarch
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