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To: Owen
As I say, search it out for yourself, it's all there for those that WANT to see.
This from the first page of the search I suggested:

"Here's the drill: People enter the country illegally, promptly procure bogus Social Security cards from the black market, and use them to get jobs. Eventually they get paid, and those earnings generate W-2s that go to the Social Security Administration, which tucks them away in something called the "earnings suspense file." (The government does try to notify some of the larger employers that Social Security cards they've accepted appear to be phony, but that's about the extent of its efforts to figure out where all this money is coming from.) According to the best estimates of the Social Security Administration, the fund has kept track over the last 20 years of more than $300 billion in total earnings – the vast majority of them attributable to illegal immigrants."

Do you not see that this proves your solution a failed one?

"These taxes would be paid in and no benefit ever collected. It's a huge plus to the system."

Are you now suggesting we tax guest workers and deny them access to benefits?

146 posted on 12/07/2005 12:49:26 PM PST by moehoward
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To: moehoward

This idea that endless millions of Third World immigrants are going to "save" Social Security is the biggest bunch of hogwash I've ever heard. People will believe ANYTHING. The fact is its the exact opposite: these immigrants are in the process of BANKRUPTING our country.

All the nice-sounding hypothetical talk about the wonderful things these immigrants are going to do for us in the unforseen future really cracks me up. It reminds me of the suitor telling his would-be girlfriend about all the wonderful things that he, and their relationship, are going to do for her in the unforseen future. Mightn't the woman be better served by talking to some of the suitor's PREVIOUS girlfriends to find out what he already did to THEM? As opposed to listening to his nice-sounding speeches of the future?

Well, heres what these Third World immigrants have already done. They are fleeing impoverished countries they've already ruined. They certainly don't seem to have had much of an up-lifting effect on their OWN countries economies. Why in the world should I believe they'd have an uplifting effect on ours?


147 posted on 12/07/2005 1:27:28 PM PST by Ace Backwords
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To: moehoward

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As I say, search it out for yourself, it's all there for those that WANT to see.
This from the first page of the search I suggested:
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What was the source of that following paragraph? The URL will suffice if it is from government sources.

But it looks like excellent news. Lots of money going into the SS system from illegals with no benefits paid. A strong positive.

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"These taxes would be paid in and no benefit ever collected. It's a huge plus to the system."

Are you now suggesting we tax guest workers and deny them access to benefits?
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Well, I think there's a misunderstanding here. It is what you are suggesting is taking place, not me. And I'm saying that if you're correct, it is a marvelous thing. Those folks are paying 6% of their paychecks into Social Security and never collecting a benefit. That would mean the cash is available for your parents. This is a very good thing, if true, which I doubt.


149 posted on 12/07/2005 1:39:23 PM PST by Owen
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