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To: strategofr
Being that:

* Iran can control the Straight of Hormuz
* that Russia has built Iran's major nuclear facilities
* Russia is selling SAMs to defend Iran
* that Russia is protecting Iran diplomatically
* that Russian nuclear engineers are aiding Iran in the training of nuclear technology
* the Straight of Hormuz is the most strategic point in the Middle East economically and militarily
* that it is clear Russia is using Iran as a proxy state for Russian force projection . . .

Then, be it resolved that the USA will respond . . .

a) by giving another $15 billion to Africa to maintain female genital mutilation

b) Take up Senator Santorum's request to give a fixed % of GDP to global charity

c) Issue $2000 debit cards as Christmas presents to welfare groupies from New Orleans, currently hanging out at FEMA paid Holiday Inns

150 posted on 12/10/2005 9:04:20 PM PST by Dont_Tread_On_Me_888 (Bush's #1 priority Africa. #2 priority appease Fox and Mexico . . . USA priority #64.)
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

Russia is mentioned here but people should understand that the wounded and humiliated Bear may not stand quiet while its client state is pulverized.

This is the ugly World War III scenario. The evil Bear is alligned with the evil mullahs.

Bush does not understand or know Russia's history or Putin's soul. He has been misled by interim agreements on other issues.


154 posted on 12/10/2005 9:12:20 PM PST by romanesq
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

" Then, be it resolved that the USA will respond . . ."

Well, I am normally in the position of being the one who "rants" about these things. I sympathize and agree with your frustration on this issue.

I suppose my response would be this. This is not a case, as with the immigration issue, where the conservative base is well-informed, has raised themselves up as a group to confront the government, and the government is ducking the issue.

This is a case where, almost no one in the whole world, it seems, is aware of the problem. Even on NRO (national review online), this issue would be rarely addressed, if ever.

So, while your position is correct, that is to say, it is insane for us to ignore this problem---it is an insanity that, so far, is gripping nearly everyone.

The fact is, the MSM, the majority of faculty at the universities, the entire State Department, and a significant portion of the CIA, especially the whole Russian section, are, to a large extent, under the control of Putin, his ex-KGB colleagues in the Russian government, and the FSB.

This is nothing more than continuity of the original Soviet Communist penetration of the US, other Western democracies, and Japan. I'm quite sure that Putin his colleagues no longer believe in state control over the means of production, so I won't call them communists anymore.

I'm sure however, that they still retain the core values of communism. I referred to a belief in individual murder, mass murder, terror, subversion, blackmail, and, not to draw it out too far, simply doing anything at all to pursue one's goals. This system of "morality" was originally put in place to pursue the utopian goal of communism. now it is simply serving the goal of providing power, wealth, and privilege to Putin, his buddies, and the many people they need to continue their operation.

I don't think we can be overly bitter about our government's failure to respond to something when the vast majority of conservative Republicans have yet to figure out what is going on.

Having said that, it is nice to see there is somebody else who is aware of the problem.


227 posted on 12/11/2005 10:04:27 AM PST by strategofr
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