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Woman died on cannabis drug trial
BBC ^ | 12/12/05 | bbc

Posted on 12/12/2005 11:26:03 AM PST by minus_273

Woman died on cannabis drug trial

Sativex is made from the cannabis plant A woman developed mental health problems and later died after taking part in trials of a cannabis-based drug, an inquest has heard.

Diabetic Rene Anderson, aged 69 from Sheffield, was taken to hospital after starting to take Sativex to see if it would relieve pain she was suffering.

She died in March 2004 from acute kidney failure.

The continuing inquest is expected to have implications for the use of drugs derived from cannabis.

Useful relief

Mrs Anderson, a retired supermarket supervisor from Silkstone Close in Frecheville, had been taking part in a trial supervised by diabetes expert Dr Solomon Tesfaye.

He told the court he wanted to investigate whether cannabis could provide useful relief from the severe pain experienced by diabetic neuropathy sufferers.

Sativex, which is not yet licensed in the UK but has been granted a licence in Canada, had shown good results in multiple sclerosis sufferers, Dr Resfaye said.

He was first aware of Mrs Anderson's case when her family complained about her mental problems just days after her treatment began.

Admitted to hospital

The doctor said the dose of the drug, which is taken using an oral spray, was reduced but Mrs Anderson's daughter, Jackie Sadler, rang back two weeks later to tell of her mother's deterioration.

Sheffield coroner Chris Dorries heard how Mrs Anderson suffered a series of physical problems after she was admitted to hospital in October 2003, 23 days after starting to take Sativex

These included pneumonia which culminated in her death five months later.

The coroner said the purpose of the inquest was to examine what links there were, if any, between the experimental treatment and the physical deterioration which led to Mrs Anderson's death.

The inquest, which began on Monday, is expected to last five or six days.


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this has got to hurt the "pot cures all crowd". Anyone else not surprised she developed mental problems after taking pot?
1 posted on 12/12/2005 11:26:04 AM PST by minus_273
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To: minus_273

Nobody died from pot until the drug companies decided to make it safe.


2 posted on 12/12/2005 11:27:47 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: minus_273
Anyone else not surprised she developed mental problems after taking pot?

Can anyone show she didn't have mental problems before "taking" pot?

3 posted on 12/12/2005 11:28:27 AM PST by rhombus
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To: minus_273
this has got to hurt the "pot cures all crowd". Anyone else not surprised she developed mental problems after taking pot?

She wasn't "taking pot."

4 posted on 12/12/2005 11:28:31 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: minus_273
taking pot

ROTFL you noob.

5 posted on 12/12/2005 11:29:43 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Trailerpark Badass

there pot with out the active chemical is just any other plant (hemp or whatever) . she was consuming what people consume pot for.


6 posted on 12/12/2005 11:30:18 AM PST by minus_273
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To: dead
Nobody died from pot until the drug companies decided to make it safe.
I seriously doubt that. How can you be sure some stoner didn't drive off a cliff?
7 posted on 12/12/2005 11:31:11 AM PST by Andy from Beaverton (I only vote Republican to stop the Democrats)
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To: Sir Gawain

she wasnt smoking it, she was using it as s drug. you take medicine dont you?


8 posted on 12/12/2005 11:31:13 AM PST by minus_273
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To: All

Seems like the woman had some major problems before the the drug therapy started. I wonder what else she was taking...


9 posted on 12/12/2005 11:31:28 AM PST by Shion
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To: minus_273

Dope kills.


10 posted on 12/12/2005 11:31:34 AM PST by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (How long do we have to pretend that the vast majority of Democrats are patriots?)
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To: minus_273
this has got to hurt the "pot cures all crowd".

Are you kidding? Rationalizing drug use is an art to them -- an addiction and a way of life, more than the drugs themselves.

This only makes them more hungry.

11 posted on 12/12/2005 11:31:42 AM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: minus_273; Bacon Man; Hap; humblegunner; Allegra

You put me in the mind of the grandmother of a friend of mine, who took him aside during a college break to express her hope that he'd never "shot weed."


12 posted on 12/12/2005 11:32:05 AM PST by Xenalyte (Tom Cruise is in my closet and he won't come out.)
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To: minus_273

Reefer Sadness.


13 posted on 12/12/2005 11:32:47 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:(~)
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To: minus_273

"Up In Smoke"


14 posted on 12/12/2005 11:32:57 AM PST by YouPosting2Me
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To: minus_273

"Anyone else not surprised she developed mental problems after taking pot?"

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LOL! I was under the assumption pot, naturally grown and not tampered with man made additives already made pot smokers mental. It's why they smoke that stench to begin with, flee reality, another way to get lung cancer, etc. Ya know(sarc) the real world is much too scary for some over grown kids.


15 posted on 12/12/2005 11:33:48 AM PST by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: minus_273

I would say that in this case diabetes accounted for all her helath problems.


16 posted on 12/12/2005 11:34:10 AM PST by Moonman62 (Federal creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it)
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To: minus_273

People die from marijuana pneumonitis and allergic reactions all the time. The demented potheads would have you believe that marijuana is as pure as the driven snow and wholesome.


17 posted on 12/12/2005 11:34:41 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: Xenalyte

used "take" becasue you take medicine you dont smoke it and rarely have i heard anyone say eat medicine (as in magic brownies). What word would you have used?


18 posted on 12/12/2005 11:34:42 AM PST by minus_273
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To: somniferum

bump for later


19 posted on 12/12/2005 11:35:20 AM PST by somniferum
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To: minus_273
Sativex is loaded with alcohol. I'd wait until the inquest is finished. Yes, I am surprised at all the problems associated with this death.
20 posted on 12/12/2005 11:35:43 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: minus_273

I've never heard one convincing argument why pot is worse than beer.


21 posted on 12/12/2005 11:35:52 AM PST by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: minus_273
there pot with out the active chemical is just any other plant (hemp or whatever) . she was consuming what people consume pot for.

She was taking a drug derived from cannabis, not cannabis itself.

That's really not too hard to get your mind around, unless you're a moron.

22 posted on 12/12/2005 11:35:57 AM PST by Trailerpark Badass
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To: minus_273

The people under discussion are not "taking pot."

One smokes pot.

One takes Sativex, which is what the story is about.


23 posted on 12/12/2005 11:37:14 AM PST by Xenalyte (Tom Cruise is in my closet and he won't come out.)
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To: Andy from Beaverton
I seriously doubt that. How can you be sure some stoner didn't drive off a cliff?

I'm sure some "stoner" has done that, in which the cause of death was likely blunt trauma or bleeding.

Pot, in and of itself, has never caused a death. In combination with operating heavy machinary, its use can be fatal. Best to do one or the other, but not both simultaneously.

24 posted on 12/12/2005 11:37:47 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: FormerACLUmember
People die from marijuana pneumonitis and allergic reactions all the time.

Source?

25 posted on 12/12/2005 11:37:59 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: minus_273

This article is so full of holes. She died because she died & I doubt cannabis had any or a fraction of the cause.


26 posted on 12/12/2005 11:38:41 AM PST by Digger (Outsource CONgress)
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To: FormerACLUmember

People die of peanut allergies too, and probably more often. What's your point?


27 posted on 12/12/2005 11:39:39 AM PST by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Ace of Spades

"I've never heard one convincing argument why pot is worse than beer."


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Dogs like beer better cuz it helps them mark their territories. Pot like cigs gives dry throats.
Did that help?


28 posted on 12/12/2005 11:39:50 AM PST by SunnySide (Ephes2:8 ByGraceYou'veBeenSavedThruFaithAGiftOfGodSoNoOneCanBoast)
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To: Ace of Spades

how hard is it to check for DUI? how hard is it to check for some guy who is drving high? at that point it is no longer a harmless drug.


29 posted on 12/12/2005 11:39:52 AM PST by minus_273
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To: dead
Nobody died from pot until the drug companies decided to make it safe.

"Post Of The Day" nominee.

30 posted on 12/12/2005 11:40:16 AM PST by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: minus_273
Diabetic Rene Anderson, aged 69 from Sheffield, was taken to hospital after starting to take Sativex to see if it would relieve pain she was suffering.

She died in March 2004 from acute kidney failure.

It takes a good part of week for the toxins in a your body to build up and kill you if your kidneys shutdown. And you would know if your kidneys shutdown, you would no longer need to urinate and you would retain a lot of water.

Being diabetic is what killed her, not this drug.

31 posted on 12/12/2005 11:42:18 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Digger
"This article is so full of holes. She died because she died & I doubt cannabis had any or a fraction of the cause."

I know she died becasue she died. I dount think that is disputed. I doubt she would have died had she not died.

PS, What are you smoking?
32 posted on 12/12/2005 11:42:47 AM PST by minus_273
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To: minus_273

This is just one more death in the untold millions of "Death By Cannabis" tragedies.

Did you ever wonder why you see so few hippies, anymore?

They're all DEAD!

The government is hushing up this slaughter because their Lizard Masters from Outer Space wants us all to die!


33 posted on 12/12/2005 11:43:51 AM PST by headsonpikes (The Liberal Party of Canada are not b*stards - b*stards have mothers!)
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To: SunnySide
Dogs like beer better cuz it helps them mark their territories. Pot like cigs gives dry throats.

That sounds like a logical reasoning question off the LSAT :P

34 posted on 12/12/2005 11:45:23 AM PST by somniferum
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To: FormerACLUmember

I know alot of long time users. Guys that smoked 4+ joints a day for years. Every last one of them now has some sort of anxiety disorder, mental problems, depression, you name it. Not to mention the fact that not one of them is very successful in their careers or family life.


35 posted on 12/12/2005 11:45:37 AM PST by Ashamed Canadian (America - please invade us now!!)
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To: Ashamed Canadian

Not to contradict what you're saying, because I believe you, but I know people who drink a case of beer a day, and they're not particularly healthy or successful either. Yet beer is legal. Just sayin'.


36 posted on 12/12/2005 11:47:42 AM PST by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Sir Gawain
>>>People die from marijuana pneumonitis and allergic reactions all the time.<<<

Source?

I wouldn't hold your breath.

37 posted on 12/12/2005 11:47:47 AM PST by gdani
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To: minus_273

It wasn't pot she took. It was a synthetic drug derived from marijuana ingredients; probably in a more concentrated form than you can find in the best pot. She was almost elderly, and not healthy either. This doesn't hurt pro-marijuana people at all.


38 posted on 12/12/2005 11:48:12 AM PST by MadManDan
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To: minus_273

Looks like they should have used the indica strain instead of the sativa...


39 posted on 12/12/2005 11:50:05 AM PST by sit-rep (If you acquire, hit it again to verify...)
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To: gdani; headsonpikes

The big Prohibitionist push is on in the U.K. That this is being sensationalized beyond all reason is no surprise.


40 posted on 12/12/2005 11:52:05 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Ashamed Canadian
I know alot of long time users. Guys that smoked 4+ joints a day for years. Every last one of them now has some sort of anxiety disorder, mental problems, depression, you name it. Not to mention the fact that not one of them is very successful in their careers or family life.

I know alot of long time users. Guys that smoked 4+ joints a day for years. Every last one of them now is a normally adjusted, happy and productive contributing member of society. Not to mention the fact that every single one of them is very successful in their careers or family life.

41 posted on 12/12/2005 11:55:30 AM PST by ActionNewsBill ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act")
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To: minus_273
this has got to hurt the "pot cures all crowd"

Hey idiot, reread your own post.

She took a synthetic form of pot. Big difference.

Man, you pro-drug warriors are all the same....

42 posted on 12/12/2005 11:56:44 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (JOE WILSON IS A MUTHAFAKING LIAR)
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To: minus_273

This is for all the anti-pot people in this thread:
Stupidity is the most widely used drug to escape reality from, just look at the liberals; you should all take a step back and examine pot objectively. Most of you who think it's so bad have never done it. It's like anything else, some people do way too much and then lead loserous lives because of a general lack of ambition. But for every one of them there are many who smoke pot who are highly intelligent and lead very useful and good lives. Smoking anything is bad for your lungs, but other than that, pot is freaking harmless.


43 posted on 12/12/2005 11:57:06 AM PST by MadManDan
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To: dead

The anti-pot folks are beyond hypocrisy.

It was legal up until DuPont invented NYLON (NewYork/LONdon)and had the Pentagon cronies support to replace all the Navy's hemp and manila lines.

The Rockefeller controlled medical industry, (his ole man was a snake-OIL salesman and horse thief), had it's BETTER than pot cures too.

But the "moonshine" industry cum NASCAR, and the liquor businesses thrives and push THEIR drug at televised national sports events.

BTW - Washington was the nation's largest whiskey distiller at the time!!!

Another fundamental right in the crapper due to business elite's choke hold on politicians.

Pot has never even come close to the levels of physical and mental harm done by alcohol, or mis-used prescription drugs like xanax or oxy for that matter.

I don't recommend any of them - but what's corrupt is corrupt and what's fair is fair.


44 posted on 12/12/2005 11:58:10 AM PST by Marxbites (A citizenry of sheep must in time beget a Govt of wolves)
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To: Ace of Spades
I've never heard one convincing argument why pot is worse than beer.

And you're not going to hear it, because the drug warriors always resort to ad hominem attacks, strawman arguments, childish insults, and the obligatory Libertarian Party reference. Facts and logic are to them as garlic is to Dracula.

45 posted on 12/12/2005 12:00:10 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (JOE WILSON IS A MUTHAFAKING LIAR)
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To: minus_273
Are you sure she's 'dead'? (Maybe just really stoned...)

46 posted on 12/12/2005 12:00:55 PM PST by evets (God bless president Bush!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Isn't it funny? They don't trust the government except on this one point. They fell hook, line and sinker for this one.


47 posted on 12/12/2005 12:03:33 PM PST by Ace of Spades (Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: minus_273

She had complications of diabetes to the point of diabetic neuropathy. I would hazard a guess that her kidney failure had more to do with diabetes than taking the pot.


48 posted on 12/12/2005 12:05:40 PM PST by kenth (Come back here... so that I may brain thee!)
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To: ActionNewsBill

Yeah, but Bill, your pot down in the States can't even touch the sh*t that's grown up here. You may be getting our weed down there now, but we've been growing wheelchair weed hydroponically for years.


49 posted on 12/12/2005 12:07:06 PM PST by Ashamed Canadian (America - please invade us now!!)
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To: MadManDan
But for every one of them there are many who smoke pot who are highly intelligent and lead very useful and good lives

Like the Clintons?

50 posted on 12/12/2005 12:08:16 PM PST by Ashamed Canadian (America - please invade us now!!)
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