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1 posted on 12/13/2005 9:20:23 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
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These bastards never stop.


103 posted on 12/13/2005 12:35:47 PM PST by stevio (Red-Blooded American Male (NRA))
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"Our mission is to stop violent felons," said Patrolmen's Benevolent Association President Patrick Lynch. "There is no reason for anyone else to have that ability."

Oh, duh?? If a car jacker jumps me or I have to face a home invader at 2:00 a.m. does this fool think I'm not out to stop a violent felon? Every one of my loaded defensive weapons is, and will remain, loaded with hollow points and nothing but.

105 posted on 12/13/2005 12:51:16 PM PST by libstripper
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Another nice looking alternative to hollow-point is MagSafe ammo. I've not yet tried it myself, but it looks worthwhile for the first few rounds (after that I want something with some anti-armor capability, for body armor, car doors and such).

BTW, though illegal right now in the States, arcane bullets are a very low-tech and effective anti-armor round, and are easily made. They were originally developed in Germany during WWII. Just mill pure copper or soft brass to a somewhat smaller diameter than the lead bullet would have (copper and brass are harder than lead, so chamber pressures go up - one would start right at the diameter of the rifling, and increase the diameter slowly from test to test paying attention to primer and case deformation). The front of the bullet is simply milled to a 45/90/45 degree cone (sharp tip). High velocity (1400+ FPS from a .45 ACP), and goes through body armor and metal very nicely according to the old Guns and Ammo issue I read. Lots of wound damage as well, from what it said. One never knows when this kind of information (as well as a machine shop) might come in handy...

Surprisingly, I wasn't able to find much information about arcane bullets using Google...strange.

P.S. Looking around on the web, it appears that AP ammunition is only prohibited if it is "A handgun projectile wholly made of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium" or "A handgun projectile larger than .22 caliber with a jacket weighing more than 25% of the total weight of the projectile." So, it appears the pure copper form is legal to manufacture, at least for the time being... It also appears from the wording there that copper jacketed steel cored bullets should be fine as long as the jacket is less than 25% of the total weight...hmmmm. :-)

110 posted on 12/13/2005 1:28:25 PM PST by PreciousLiberty
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It is very easy to make a solid bullet into a hollow point.. are they gonna ban bullets altogether? be t that's the end plan


114 posted on 12/13/2005 1:39:46 PM PST by Cinnamon
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"Our mission is to stop violent felons," said Patrolmen's Benevolent Association President Patrick Lynch. "There is no reason for anyone else to have that ability."

well... ain't that special?

119 posted on 12/13/2005 2:15:45 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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"Our mission is to stop violent felons," said Patrolmen's Benevolent Association President Patrick Lynch. "There is no reason for anyone else to have that ability."

Yes, m'lord.

121 posted on 12/13/2005 2:23:36 PM PST by RogueIsland
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Cops favor using the hollow-point bullets because they are less likely to pass through a target and ricochet into a fellow cop or bystander.

I carry Federal Hydroshock. In my home I load with Glaser Blue Tip. LEOs I know wish they could use them too – but City Ordinances limit them to carrying FMG on duty. I have never met a beat cop who wants to limit the citizens right to carry or the type of ammo they can use. That is usually reserved to the political animals who want to make chief.
124 posted on 12/13/2005 2:33:15 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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"Hollowed bullets"?? Jeeze, louise, reporters are stoopid!


128 posted on 12/13/2005 2:54:13 PM PST by ozzymandus
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In this instance, I say to hell with the cop unions, I don't want to be outgunned by every government thug in the land.


135 posted on 12/13/2005 4:52:23 PM PST by Old Mountain man (Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice!)
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So I suppose they will have to ban drill presses next. It amazes me that liberals think guns and ammo are some mystic complex technology that, if banned would not be reproducible in a modestly outfitted shop. After all, They had semi-automatics a hundred years ago and prisoners build guns and ammo in prison where they AND the tools to make them with are banned.
136 posted on 12/13/2005 4:57:12 PM PST by Boiling point (If God had not meant for man to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat!)
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