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To: Holdek
"You are using a specious argument. Since when does a President get to just declare an American citizen a terrorist and then be done with it? What if Hillary Clinton gets into office and declares you a terrorist and conducts a warentless wiretap on you, just because she can?

The Bill of Rights applies to American Citizens."


Yours is just as specious, after all the people put the Clintons into office and did not care one wit about the Bill of Rights applying under them, all that was promoted was "civil rights" that make the Bill of Rights null and void.

Hillry is NOT in office and there are in FACT terrorists killers, some already were here and ignored under Hillary term as co-president.

Now if "American citizens" choose to be a part of terrorist organizations that seek to harm the security of USA other citizens then they put themselves as prime targets of wiretapping. It is not as though this is an innocent enterprise without premeditated motives.
285 posted on 12/20/2005 8:39:51 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts

Who determines if these American citizens are part of terrorist organizations? When do you start taking away their right to face their accuser and use the courts to defend their innocence? If they can be accused of terrorism, so can you. Not because you are a terrorist, but because you are an individual in this country and subject to whatever categorization the President wishes to put you in, criminal or otherwise, for reasons that need be justified only in his mind.

The Bill of Rights was put in place PRECISELY to protect against the "what ifs." That's why it is part of the CONSTITUTION of this country and placed there by the framers; it is not some sunset provision in an appropriations bill. You may or may not like what George Bush is doing as President, but he is only President. That is, someone else will be in power after him, and then someone else after that. The nation doesn't switch dictators every four years, and the Bill of Rights wasn't put in the Constitution for grins.


287 posted on 12/20/2005 8:49:54 AM PST by Holdek (Real conservatives support the Bill of Rights)
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