[highlander_UW]

No, Sola Scriptura(Scriptures) and Sola Fide(Faith Alone)or Faith without works; i.e. Talk the talk, but don't walk the walk.

You seem to be trying to wind this into some debate other than my original, and accurate statement. Not really interested, sorry...but I am quite familiar with the topics of sola scriptura and sola fide.

Catholics prayers are only directed to God through his grace and glory granted by him alone, not directly to Saints or the Blessed Mother (Mary) we seek intercession and invocation of the faithful here on earth and in heaven for they are one body with Christ.

As an ex-catholic I know this isn't true in general, but glad to hear it from you personally. But I would point out that it's counter-biblical to seek intercession from anyone but Jesus...who is our ONLY intercessor.

To ask saints both here on earth and heaven to pray for us, to God, not that God may know our petition from them, but that their prayers and the merits of our prayers be efficacious.

The apostles asked Jesus to teach them to pray and what He taught had nothing to do with praying to dead saints or angels, asking them to intercede for them.

Listen, my original point was that all believers are saints...it does not take some special pronouncement from the pope or anyone else to make one a saint. You have changed the topic from that to the efficacy of praying to saints and angels asking them to pray for us. Perhaps you made this change in topic because you sensed you had no case on the original point...but you've moved to another losing point. It seems pointless to go around and around on these topics. I know that I'm right in these two regards...and it's also equally likely that you're not going to change your views because you see yourself as some defender of the RCC...even though my original point was not an attack on the RCC but rather a statement of fact that you took offense at.

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You are entitled to your evangelical/fundamentalist beliefs, though I do not share them or acknowledge them as truths, but none the less they are truths to you.

I have seen your arguments before, most of which are found in the writings of Loraine Boettner’s "Roman Catholicism" published in 1962, and expounded upon by Chick Publications, Lumen Productions, C.U.R.E., Harvest House, and Bob Jones University Press, to name a few.

Most of the assertions have been addressed through various scholarly apologetics, and the original writings of the Council of Trent, and subsequent scholarly endeavors since. Most of the arguments were not based upon the beliefs of the Church, but of beliefs about the church, not based upon the teachings or traditions of the church.

Though I do not agree with you, or you with me, I am glad that you have found Jesus Christ, and wish you a Merry Christmas.