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To: Campion
Not a problem. The word "saint" simply comes from a Latin root meaning "holy" or "holy one". All Christians are holy. At the very least, they are set apart and dedicated to God by their baptism, even if they lead very unrighteous lives, and "set apart and dedicated to God" is one definition of "holy".

We appear to be in complete agreement here.

So, yes, indeed, all Christians are saints. But nothing about that precludes us from recognizing some Christians as having exhibited especially heroic holiness in their lives. Protestants do it all the time -- we just had a seemingly endless series of "brave and noble heroes of the Reformation" threads on the religion forum -- they just don't use the word "saint" to particularly designate such people.

I don't hang out in the religion forums here...they seem to be pretty argumentative, but I'll take your word for it. And personally, I don't have a problem with the pope (or anyone else) giving a tip of the hat to someone whose life was well spent. I don't generally focus on the reformation...my focus would be more on people such as William Carey or Hudson Taylor as fine examples. If what the pope is doing is the same sort of recognition I have no problem with it...although setting aside the title "saint" is misplaced scripturally. One thing I would question is the requirement for documented "miracles" as part of the process. I'm not personally aware of specific miracles performed at the hand of William Carey, for instance, but I doubt that anyone could dispute that he was well used by God in all the work he accomplished.

87 posted on 12/22/2005 6:32:12 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: highlander_UW

"TOM CRUISE is taking a lot of s**t for belonging to a religion, Scientology, that believes aliens came to this planet 75 million years ago.

That is nothing.

I was raised Catholic. We believe Mary was a virgin and Jesus ended up walking on water, creating a bottomless jug of wine and rising from the dead

-Dennis Leary


89 posted on 12/26/2005 1:43:15 AM PST by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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