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To: penelopesire

No, none should be impeached. BUT THIS SURVEILANCE IS ILLEGAL! (Not that it matters, as long as the evidence is not used in a criminal prosecution because the fourth amendment only provides for the exclusion of evidence as a public remedy. Those spied upon, of course, can ALWAYS bring civil actions to recover any damaged which if you are a terrorist, is surmise, would be very hard to do).


164 posted on 12/20/2005 8:33:26 PM PST by The Cuban
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To: The Cuban
If courts have upheld the legal opinion that this is within the Presidential Powers during certain circumstances, how is it "ILLEGAL"?

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/20/131610.shtml

2002 case dubbed: "In Re: Sealed Case," the FISA appeals court decision cited a previous FISA case [U.S. v. Truong], where a federal court "held that the President did have inherent authority to conduct warrantless searches to obtain foreign intelligence information."
167 posted on 12/20/2005 8:43:41 PM PST by Wasanother (Terrorist come in many forms but all are RATS.)
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To: The Cuban

No one has established that it was SURVEILLANCE...it was INTERCEPTED OVERSEAS PHONE CALLS FROM/TO KNOWN TERRORISTS. SURVEILLANCE is what was going on during my shopping today..a camera following me around the store. Are my Constitutional rights violated because the store had a camera on me? There is a record of every book I check out of the library..the people that work there have access to my records..are my constitutional rights being violated?

Hell..my credit card numbers can be traced to my home address..phone number..ss number..are my constitutional rights being violated? My phone company knows everyone i call and who calls me...on and on and on.
HACKERS CAN DO TO EVERYONE OF US WHAT HAS BEEN DONE BY THIS PRESIDENT TO PROTECT THIS COUNTRY FROM ISLAMIC KILLERS!! Get a grip!!


172 posted on 12/20/2005 9:01:09 PM PST by penelopesire
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