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The Multiplex Under Siege
The Wall Street Journal ^ | Dec 24, 2005 | Kate Kelly

Posted on 12/24/2005 9:57:16 AM PST by abb

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To: abb

Please, next time you post a story from WSJ.com, remember, not all of us subscribe to it.


41 posted on 12/24/2005 11:02:09 AM PST by GeneD
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To: abb

The product's fine. Unless you think soaring DVD rentals are of films not made by Hollywood. Its the cost and hassle of the theater "experiecne" that turn people off.


42 posted on 12/24/2005 11:03:05 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: DYngbld
Ticket prices might have something to do with it as well.

I am amazed at how oblivious some businesses are to the Laffer curve. Arcade machines can be the same way--I know that I'd play the combo Galaga/Ms. Pacman machines a lot more if they were $0.25 instead of $0.50, and I don't think I'm alone. On the other hand, maybe the problem is that if movie prices were $4.50 instead of $9.00, people who'd be inclined to go once a week instead of once a month would run out of pictures to see.

43 posted on 12/24/2005 11:04:36 AM PST by supercat (Sony delinda est.)
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To: DYngbld

Yep. My wife and I went to see 'Walk the Line' last night (good movie, BTW, obviously an exception rather than the rule lately), and it cost us $16 for two adult tickets, and $18.50 for popcorn, 2 medium drinks, an order of nachos, and a hotdog. We can't afford to splurge like that too often, especially on really poor quality movies (which we avoid like the plague). So hopefully the law of supply and demand will kick in sooner rather than later!


44 posted on 12/24/2005 11:08:46 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: Mr. Blonde
The problem with remakes is they usually remake an already decent film. Why not make another run at something that was bad? Why not try to improve Plan 9 From Outer Space instead of redoing Charlie and the Chocolate Factory?

I'd like to see more rereleases. Instead of doing a remake to get people to watch a story again, rerelease the original. Hollywood doesn't do rereleases very much, but a lot of the rereleases it has done (Star Wars, Wizard of Oz, etc.) have done quite well. Of course, maybe that's part of the problem--Hollywood would be too embarassed if movies from the 1930's to 1960's did too much better than current ones.

45 posted on 12/24/2005 11:10:04 AM PST by supercat (Sony delinda est.)
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To: abb
There are far too few movies I care to see, so I'm not there often. The pre-show material is getting obscene too -- and that's not including the obnoxious previews for movies several seasons away.

I'm about to write off one theatre here for the use of something called "The 20"(?) -- pre-show "entertainment" that is anything but entertaining.

47 posted on 12/24/2005 11:13:40 AM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Libs: Celebrate MY diversity, eh! || Iran Azadi 2006)
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To: abb

INDEED. I haven't paid to see a movie in a theatre since "The Blair Witch Project", and THAT was 5 years ago.


48 posted on 12/24/2005 11:18:03 AM PST by The Drowning Witch (Sono La Voce della Nazione Selvaggia)
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To: abb
This year, domestic movie attendance is down 7%, and industry officials blame competition from home entertainment

Until the industry officials can face reality, things for them won't change. Here's a few things that screw up the theater experience:

That's just a few. And at home, I can hit "Pause" while stepping out to get a drink or a bathroom break.
49 posted on 12/24/2005 11:19:19 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: abb

Movies today don't have plots, they have themes. We get movies like "The 40 Year Old Virgin" and "Monster-in-Law," where one knows exactly what they are going to be about just from the title. Why even watch them?

Movies are made for demographics. This one is for the "action movie" crowd or this one is for the "chick movie" crowd. The story line is secondary, if there even is one. Each movie within a certain classification follows basically the same formula or template. For example, if it is an action movie, one knows that there will be at least one car going airborne.

Hollywood has completely lost the ability to tell an interesting story or to be original. If they were to remake the movie "North by Northwest" today, Thornhill would be played by Denzel Washington. There would be a car chase which would include a huge truck blasting through a roadblock and a police car going airborne. The villains would be international wealthy nazis. The UN Building and Mt. Rushmore would be blown up. The movie would end with the villains' plane being blown up with a huge explosion which would be shown in slow motion from different angles. Thornhill would extract the girl from the plane at the last minute somehow with a fighter jet.

Everything is predictable today.


50 posted on 12/24/2005 11:19:39 AM PST by Inyokern
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To: abb

Thank you -- and Merry Christmas!


51 posted on 12/24/2005 11:20:35 AM PST by GeneD
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To: dropzone

No kidding. They've run out of ideas, so they're remaking everything (sometimes repeatedly, like Freaky Friday, which has been re-done twice now). I don't do remakes. Is it any wonder that all the movies I watch are 30 years old?


52 posted on 12/24/2005 11:20:52 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: abb

I rarely watch a movie in the theater, but if I do, it's the matinee several weeks after opening, and skip the concessions. That way it's only $5.50, and no crowds to fight. Some are just better seen on a really big screen. "The Edge" with Anthony Hopkins comes to mind. It made the mad grizzly bear look like he was 15ft tall and 5000 lbs. :)


53 posted on 12/24/2005 11:31:16 AM PST by FlyVet
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To: supercat

I would be interested to see how well The Godfather would do if it went back into wide release today. I know I would be first in line. I think it would have to be limited to color movies that could really challenge today's movies. A lot of people I know have something against B&W.


54 posted on 12/24/2005 11:32:13 AM PST by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: GeneD

For your edification:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1111944/posts


55 posted on 12/24/2005 11:32:56 AM PST by PAR35
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To: TomGuy

"This year seemed to be the remakes of the remakes of the remakes."

I think it's Fun with Dick and Jane this week.

I like action movies. What was the last good one? The Bourne Identity?

I'll go back to the theater when there is a movie worth seeing.


56 posted on 12/24/2005 11:33:04 AM PST by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
30 minutes of movie trailers intermixed with Coke and Pepsi ads. One or two trailers is OK. 30 minutes? Come on!!

There are some good things about lots of trailers. The last time I went to the movies I was running about 15 minutes late. I was still able to watch the last trailer and not miss any of the movie.

57 posted on 12/24/2005 11:36:52 AM PST by KarlInOhio (What is the most obscene gesture to a Democrat? An Iraqi voter showing him a stained finger.)
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To: Pete'sWife

Note that the "stars" of this wanabee blockbuster remake #21(or whatever the number) are a bunch of third raters. Guess 99.9% of the $300 million production cost went for special effects and hype.


58 posted on 12/24/2005 11:41:26 AM PST by hdstmf (too)
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To: FlyVet

A matinee the monday after the opening weekend is just as good. Almost nobody there for a 1pm show. I am self employed and work from home, so for movies that galpal doesn't want to see, I fly solo like that.

One exception will be King Kong - I am home in nyc for the holidays and we saw Narnia yesterday eve together, I got her on her way to PA to see her family, and I will be with my family this week. I'll go see King Kong tomorrow solo in Times Square - that will fill up 1pm-4pm or so, and get hme home just in time for the big holiday dinner! :-)


59 posted on 12/24/2005 11:41:44 AM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: KarlInOhio

I like trailers, but about 8 minutes worth is enough, and no slick pepsi ads for me. 20+ minutes of commercials is hideous.


60 posted on 12/24/2005 11:43:07 AM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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