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To: AlaninSA
O.K.,you're bigoted.

So what about the Catholic "priests" ordained and recpgnized by the Church who have families by reason of being married while being Protestant ministers? Are you disputing their calling?

This strange idea that everyone ought be celibate could only last any people for a generation;after that they're extinct!Priestly clibacy is required only by men not by God;or do you deny the Levites ?

35 posted on 12/25/2005 2:38:47 PM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: hoosierham

So...feeling confident in your attack on the precepts of my church, huh? Funny, it seems those like you are often afraid to share what odd sect they belong to out of what appears to be a fear of having that sect exposed.


52 posted on 12/25/2005 6:07:18 PM PST by AlaninSA (It's one nation under God -- brought to you by the Knights of Columbus)
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To: hoosierham
So what about the Catholic "priests" ordained and recpgnized(sic) by the Church who have families by reason of being married while being Protestant ministers? Are you disputing their calling?

You omit some important details. The relatively few number of married protestant ministers who have converted to the Latin Rite of the Catholic Church and received the Sacrament of Holy Orders were ordained only after a lengthy, comprehensive screening process and period of study and instruction conducted by their Bishop to discern that said individual was in full communion with the teachings of the Catholic Church. They then received a dispensation from the norm of celibacy for the clerical state granted under Pope John Paul IIs 1980 Pastoral Provision. Ordination is not automatic for those who seek it and said individual must agree that should his spouse preceed him in death that he will then adopt the discipline of celibacy for the remainder of his life. No agreement, no ordination.

This strange idea that everyone ought be celibate could only last any people for a generation;after that they're extinct!Priestly clibacy(sic) is required only by men not by God;or do you deny the Levites ?

You exhibit a glaringly deficient knowledge of Scripture, history and the Priesthood. There are 22 churches sui juris in six separate Rites which comprise the Catholic Church. Married men can be ordained, without dispensation, in 21 of the 22 Churches. The Latin Rite, as a norm, ordains single men who pledge to adopt the discipline of celibacy/chastity for the remainder of their lives. Said discipline is based upon the teachings in Scripture of Christ, St. Paul and the Apostles. Christ and St. Paul highly praised the discipline and as St. Peter told Christ, he and his fellow Apostles gave up everything, including a wife if they were married, to follow Christ. The question you should be asking yourself is why so few "ministers", particularly those who wear the moniker "bible believing", embrace the teachings of Christ and St. Paul on the topic. Furthermore, the ministerial Priesthood in the Catholic Church finds its genesis in the Old Testament with the Levitical priesthood of Melchisedech. Someone in Scripture you should thoroughly research.

Despite your ill-informed statement, the Church does not teach that everyone should be celibate. Quite the contrary. The Church considers marriage to be a Sacrament and is a big proponent of procreation within marriage.

76 posted on 12/25/2005 8:44:38 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: hoosierham
The power to "bind and loose" given by Jesus to His Pope and Apostles/Bishops in union with the Pope includes the authority to regulate in the area of Discipline.

Your arguement is with Jesus who, according to your idea, erred in building His Church.

Please review Matthew 16:18,19

145 posted on 12/27/2005 4:13:07 AM PST by bornacatholic
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