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"Are you saying that the US Constitution has been ignored for the first 200 years, all the way up to the 1970-s?"

No I do not believe I said that. Without a doubt that have been instances of constitutional violations in those 200 years, but I don't recall pointing out any specific instance.

"This whole FISA court stuff was only created then, in response to the Nixon scandal."

The Fourth Amendment predates FISA by just a bit.

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So are you saying that ALL presidents violated the Constitution?

There was no law against spying on people in the US until the law passed by Congress as a knee jerk reaction to the Nixon scandal.

My point was exactly that this law has nothing to do with the Constitution and the Constitution was never interpreted as prohibiting the President from spying on our enemies, foreign and domestic. So why is it a big deal now, when in fact the only way we can find out and prevent terror attack, is by spying on terrorists inside the US.