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The Depiction of Israel and Jews in the Film "EXODUS"
Exodus | 1/2/06 | Cinnamon Girl

Posted on 01/02/2006 1:43:27 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl

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To: Cinnamon Girl

The character Azaria played in the Warsaw ghetto, were he to survive, would have joined the Irgun or LEHI, not Ari's Hagganah.

Today the Presbyterian character would be organizing a boycott of Israel.

People may be surprised at the Arab Sheik character in the movie, that would side with Israel, is based in fact on some Arabs, most prominently on those from a small village outside Jerusalem called Abu Gosh, who sided with the Jews against their fellow Arabs for the creation of Israel.


21 posted on 01/02/2006 2:04:27 PM PST by Sabramerican
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To: Cinnamon Girl

Dalton Trumbo, one of the infamous "Hollywood Ten", wrote the screenplay for this film.


22 posted on 01/02/2006 2:05:40 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: cinives

as I recall it was, a huge book but a book that kept you reading and worth it.


23 posted on 01/02/2006 2:06:33 PM PST by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

I saw "Exodus" many years ago but I haven't viewed it recently.

We used to have a tape of the made for TV movie "Raid on Entebbe" which my kids loved to watch over and over and over.

Has anyone seen "Ushpizin"? I have heard that it is the first movie ever produced in Israel to actually portray religious Jews in a positive way.


24 posted on 01/02/2006 2:06:50 PM PST by Alouette (Neocon Zionist Media Operative)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

"Exodus" is an excellent movie depicting the struggle by the Jews to establish the nation of Israel. A must see film, IMO.


25 posted on 01/02/2006 2:08:32 PM PST by afnamvet
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To: Cinnamon Girl
"Exodus" was made in 1960, only 12 years after the U.N. voted to allow a separate state of Israel. Somehow, liberal revisionist history had not yet taken over Hollywood and here came a film that made the struggle for an idependent state a righteous battle, not a "mistake" as Tony Kushner, screenwriter of "Munich" has said.

You have to understand that in 1960, Israel was considered to be "good" by the American left for two reasons.

1. The original Zionists (Ben Gurian, et. al.) were economic socialists who were creating "cooperative" farms the Kabotizes (sp?) etc. that fit well with Marxist and Hollywood ideology.

2. In 1948, the Soviet Union supported the creation of the state of Israel at the UN because they saw them a.) fighting the British and b.) as fellow socialists.

The Soviet support did not begin to change until the mid 60s when they saw the opportunity to disrupt the growing flow of Mideast oil to the west by sponsoring terrorists like Arafat and corrupt totalitarian secular regimes in Egypt, Syria and Iraq, turning all three into client states. Additionally, the Israelis began to move away from overt socialism and embrace a more mixed economy, disappointing Hollywood socialists.

Once the Soviets finally changed their tune totally on Israel by the mid 1970s, Hollywood began to change their "scripts" too.

26 posted on 01/02/2006 2:10:08 PM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

I worked as an usher in a theater in Pittsburgh (a reserve seat theater which of course no longer exists) when Exodus was showing. I saw it probably 20 times. It has left a deep feeling in me that has never left. Anytime I hear the Exodus theme all of the memories come back. Of course hollywood would never make a movie like this today.


27 posted on 01/02/2006 2:12:57 PM PST by jimbergin
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To: bdfromlv

I just reread it recently (found it packed away in a box with some other oldies but goodies like The Source and Hawaii and RF Delderfield and some others) and found it very powerful. It seemed very relevant in light of the last 4 years. My homeschooled kid is studying 20th century history this year and I added it to her literature reading list.

How many schooled kids will ever read that type of treatment of the origins of Israel ?

If the movie served only to get more people to read the book that'd be a good thing.


28 posted on 01/02/2006 2:13:38 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Ditto

Good points.


29 posted on 01/02/2006 2:14:22 PM PST by cinives (On some planets what I do is considered normal.)
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To: Miss Marple
I have them both on vhs. I haven't gotten the cd's yet. I keep having to get out of bed to pop the second tape in, but well worth it. I've seen them many times.

If only hollyweird could make such wonderful movies again. Alas, they prefer trash like brokeback mountain now. *sigh*

30 posted on 01/02/2006 2:14:45 PM PST by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
This film is on our required viewing list for World History. Yes, it's long (it takes up a whole homeschool day), but I let the kids sing "Hava Nagela"(sp?) when they need a break. I really enjoy history class!
31 posted on 01/02/2006 2:15:11 PM PST by blu (People, for God's sake, think for yourselves!)
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To: YaYa123

Netflix says there's a "very long wait" to rent "Sword of Gideon."


32 posted on 01/02/2006 2:15:13 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Really? I had thought since Judah Ben Hur was Jewish, and since his family was oppressed by the Romans, and since their redemption was through the death of another Jew, it was pro-Jewish.

It definitely wasn't pro-Roman!

33 posted on 01/02/2006 2:15:38 PM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: chesley

You say '64... I say '65.


34 posted on 01/02/2006 2:15:39 PM PST by johnny7 (“Iuventus stultorum magister”)
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Another great film from the 1960's that heroically depicts the Israeli struggle for independence is 'Cast a Giant Shadow'.. Its a true story about an American colonel who helped train the IDF. Kirk Douglas is cast as the American Colonel, David Marcus. I believe that Col Marcus is buried in Israel and the IDF views him as a founding father.
35 posted on 01/02/2006 2:16:34 PM PST by Reily (Reilly (Dr Doom))
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To: Cinnamon Girl
Believe it or not, I only saw "Exodus" for the first time last night. Wow. I can't believe Hollywood ever had a kind word for Israel, especially considering the current prevailing attitude, as portrayed in Spielberg's "Munich."

hard to believe but the old moguls treated Christians favorably too.

i miss them...nearly all of em were Jews...and not exactly religious Jews either....imagine

36 posted on 01/02/2006 2:16:55 PM PST by wardaddy (If they don't own at least one pick-up, then they need to be watched closely)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

The book Exodus was one of my alltime favorites. It seems the further we get from WWII, it seems the easier it is for Hollywood and others to portray Jews as the source of all evil. That's when they aren't blaming Bush, of course.


37 posted on 01/02/2006 2:19:05 PM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: wardaddy

They were decent people who loved this country and their fellow man. Sadly missing are these sorts in Hollywood today.


38 posted on 01/02/2006 2:19:52 PM PST by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's son and keep him strong.)
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To: Cinnamon Girl

I'm glad SWORD OF GIDEON is getting a second look. It's really a fabulous movie.

I'm sick of hearing how innovative and couragous Spielburg is for tackling this subject.


39 posted on 01/02/2006 2:22:08 PM PST by YaYa123
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To: Miss Marple

Seeing some Jews toss Judaism out the window for Christianity is not "pro-Jewish" in my opinion. But maybe that's just me...


40 posted on 01/02/2006 2:22:37 PM PST by Cinnamon Girl (OMGIIHIHOIIC ping list)
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