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Battle of the Sexes in Hockeytown USA (Womens Olympic Team loses to High Schoolers)
Star Tribune ^ | January 05, 2006 | Larry Oakes

Posted on 01/05/2006 5:49:56 AM PST by wallcrawlr

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To: Mulch
Yep. There are some girls that can actually compete with the boys in hockey very competitively until around the age of 12. I know some of these young girls are led to believe by some feminist mothers that they are destined for the NHL. Its a big letdown for these girls when the boys start maturing and get bigger, stronger, and faster and the girls can no longer keep up.

A few years ago, I played men's league hockey here in the Merrimack Valley (MA), which can get pretty competitive, since a lot of college Div 1 - Div 3 players tend to stay in the area and continue to play hockey well into their 30s/40s/50s. A woman who won a gold medal at Nagano played in the same league, and while she was pretty tough, and extremely fearless, she was but an average hockey player at best. She would not have been able to play at a Div 3 level if she had a penis.

I don't mean to belittle her skills at all; it's just the way it is. Artie Lange of the Howard Stern show, a big, fat, drunken coke addict, came within one basket of beating a woman Div 1 basketball player in one-on-one. He was drinking before the match!


41 posted on 01/05/2006 6:41:58 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: elli1

>>>>"[I]t's refreshing to see the boys have to rely on finesse and skill."

>>That's something I'd love to see a lot more of.

I'd completely avoid watching the NBA, if I were you. In fact, I do.


42 posted on 01/05/2006 6:41:59 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: em2vn

Not to mention Subaru Foresters.


43 posted on 01/05/2006 6:42:42 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Hat-Trick; airborne

Hockey ping!


44 posted on 01/05/2006 6:42:43 AM PST by secret garden
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To: driftless
A few years ago some the Williams sisters challenged some male pro tennis player to a match. They had read somewhere where the number one women tennis player could beat all but the top two hundred men players.

You may be mixing them up with someone else - their father tried to set up some sort of exhibition with them playing some male tennis players last year, and they both nixed the deal, with Serena saying pretty much that she had no interest in playing men professionally, now or ever. In fact, I think I remember reading once where Serena said one of her goals in life was to beat her male practice partner, a guy who's never played professional tennis, just college, and whom she'd never beaten.

My guess is that there are a fair number of college players and country-club pros who could beat them pretty handily, nevermind tour professionals, and I think both Venus and Serena are well aware of that - they're not stupid, after all. Any game that's a contest of strength and/or speed, like tennis or hockey, is going to have women at an extreme disadvantage right from the get-go, and I'm sure that most women who are even halfway intelligent realize that, including Venus and Serena Williams. ;)

45 posted on 01/05/2006 6:45:48 AM PST by Senator Bedfellow
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To: airborne; SZonian; retrokitten; hollywood; Alberta's Child; 6323cd; Betis70; ColoCdn; k2afe; ...
Hockey Ping!

Kinda circus-like if you ask me. I'm not sure I get the point of playing this game - for the US women - unless it is to help them get used to the speed of the Canadian women.

Freep mail/ping airborne or Hat-Trick if you want on or off the Hockey Ping List.

46 posted on 01/05/2006 6:46:11 AM PST by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: Warren_Piece

I've always wondered if that match wasn't fixed considering Riggs betting habits. He was a well-known hustler in a variety of sports. Previously that year he easily defeated Margaret Court-Smith who at that time was considered the best womens player in the world. Against King, Riggs, admittedly well past his prime, played like he had two bowling balls tied to his legs. The Riggs-King match proved nothing, but the feminists played it up as a major victory "proving" sports equality. Actually it was just a farce.


47 posted on 01/05/2006 6:47:23 AM PST by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Hat-Trick

Also - the writer of this headline is obviously geographically challenged when it comes to hockey. Minnesota might be the "State of Hockey", but even us Avalanche fans know that Hockeytown USA is in Michigan (unfortunately, yet true). Last time I checked, it was still painted that way under the ice.


48 posted on 01/05/2006 6:48:34 AM PST by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: Warren_Piece
A woman (the best at the time) in her prime against a washed up old man who was never very good to start with - then the feminists and the media declared afterward that women athletically were on the exact same level as men. What a farce!

That was a farce and I especially recall a female at work who thought it proved that women were just as good as men. She was hilarious until people pointed out to her that Riggs was as old as her father. She didn't have a clue who he was or how damn old he was.

Actually, I think Riggs could have beat King if he wanted to, just as he had beaten Margaret Cort earlier, even though he allowed her to use the doubles lines while he had to keep it inside the singles. It was all a stunt from the start cooked up by Riggs and he made a bundle off the hype. He always was a hustler.

49 posted on 01/05/2006 6:48:36 AM PST by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: Alberta's Child

While it is true that female athletes are capable of doing things that would have been world-record performances in men's sports 80-100 years ago, there is a major world of difference between men and women from a physiological standpoint.

True. OTOH, in the case of women/ girls in hockey, the game is 'under construction', so to speak. Girls'/ women's teams are far & few between. For the most part, girls today who play hockey are playing on boys' teams...and there is a good & growing number of them who are battling it out with the guys. The womens' game will get better & better as the talent pool gets deeper.

50 posted on 01/05/2006 6:48:38 AM PST by elli1
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To: 308MBR; Mr. Jeeves

I was listening to the Howard Stern show one day (I'm not a big fan but I listened from time to time) and his short, fat, drunken, smoking, side kick Artie Lang(who is very funny) played a one on one game in Vegas before a huge audience with some pretty good woman basketball player-IIRC she was the captain of the Penn State team. Whoever got 15 points first won. She had to rally to beat him. They were both exhausted afterwards.


51 posted on 01/05/2006 6:53:43 AM PST by MattinNJ (Allen/Pawlenty in 08-play the map.)
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To: PeteB570
Hmmmmm. No checking rule?

Yes. Bodychecking is prohibited in women's hockey. You often see a lot more women's players controlling the puck with their heads down because they have no fear of getting lifted off their skates.

52 posted on 01/05/2006 6:57:09 AM PST by Colonel_Flagg ("Defeatism may have its partisan uses but it is not justified by the facts.")
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To: FreedomPoster
I'd completely avoid watching the NBA, if I were you. In fact, I do.

What's the NBA got to do with hockey? Anyway, hockey is the only sport that I watch. The boys have three games this weekend and, when we get home from a game, we usually turn on the telly and watch more hockey.

53 posted on 01/05/2006 6:58:31 AM PST by elli1
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To: elli1

There is a bunch of WNBA stuff in the thread as well, go mixed up with that.


54 posted on 01/05/2006 6:59:43 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: wallcrawlr

Womens hockey...is it as boring as womens basketball?


55 posted on 01/05/2006 7:00:06 AM PST by Sometimes A River (Your hands and feet are mangoes, but you're gonna be a genius anyway)
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To: driftless
There is absolutely no comparison in power, speed, size, upper-body strength, etc. A mediocre man can beat a top-notch woman like a rented mule.

When I was in my mid-to-upper 30s, I played basketball in an intramural league. A couple times, guys (the ones in their 20s) on the other team brought their girlfriends along who were supposedly "stars" in women's college basketball, and we let them play on their team. We wiped the floor with them. It was easy.

56 posted on 01/05/2006 7:01:33 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Give me six weeks to get in shape, and at 52, with worn-out knees, I could still outplay them.)
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To: Warren_Piece
I think you're being a bit unfair to Riggs, who was a top player in the late '30s and '40s. My father, a top player for Cal in the late 1920's, knew and occastionally played with Riggs. He always said by the early '60s Bobby "wasn't really playing tennis anymore." Riggs wasn't the player Tilden or Budge was, but he was certainly in the same league with Vines, LaCoste, or Perry.

I remember both the matches with Court (who should have done better) and King. My father said Riggs was not really prepared for that match and that even he could have beaten Riggs that day (considering he'd occasionally taken a set from Riggs in the '50s, that's not too far fetched). 'Course, I can't talk, never having been all that good: I lost in pick up games to both Rosie Casals and Julie Heldman (with whom I went to law school).

57 posted on 01/05/2006 7:04:12 AM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: wallcrawlr

Anybody know how women do against men in sharpshooting?

Seems to me that they would be on equal ground. Women have an edge in patience and men have an edge in muscle control.


58 posted on 01/05/2006 7:04:13 AM PST by kidd
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To: wallcrawlr
Members of the 2006 U.S. Olympic women's hockey team were given gifts from Warroad High Schoolers before the game. At right is goalie Pam Dreyer.


59 posted on 01/05/2006 7:06:17 AM PST by wallcrawlr (Pray for the troops [all the troops here and abroad]: Success....and nothing less!!)
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To: Hat-Trick
Umm...check this out:


60 posted on 01/05/2006 7:08:08 AM PST by wallcrawlr (Pray for the troops [all the troops here and abroad]: Success....and nothing less!!)
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