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To: DBeers
Let me point out your severely flawed argument -maybe you just do not realize your position is untenable AND more socialistic or communistic than AMERICAN?

I wasn't making a suggestion toward a position, I was pointing out the problem inherent in inserting a specific theology into government.

To ask the question "which one" objectively showcases a flawed premise that there is "one" e.g. that there must be a state religion OTHERWISE there can be no religion.

To ask the question "which one" objectively showcases a flawed premise that there is "one" e.g. that there must be a state religion OTHERWISE there can be no religion...

Actually, I was referring to deities in general when I asked "which one", since you were the one talking about God. I wasn't referring to state religions.

Wow -here is a shocker --what about IF people locally determine what is what e.g. the school board?

So you would have no problem with a an Islamic-controlled school board setting Islamic-based policies so long as they were voted in by the community? What if their policies included teaching the inferiority of the Jew?

No -you are -- it is called a straw man...

I was asking a question. What of the people who don't worship the deity of the majority?
214 posted on 01/08/2006 12:00:33 AM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio
I wasn't making a suggestion toward a position, I was pointing out the problem inherent in inserting a specific theology into government.

Actually you were pointing out a problem in your position or perspective e.g. there must be a state religion or no religion observed in public institutions. Additionally you fail to recognize or admit that the government does the very thing that supports your flawed premise in that it imposes or attempts to impose a secular theology against the will of the people e.g. the Dover decision.

As I stated the government can not mandate and or restrict religious choice and practice -this is the domain of the people AND the people can choose to do as they wish regardless who is offended e.g. you. People can not be discriminated against on the basis of religion; HOWEVER, religions can be discriminated against by the people -the government is not in the business of taking care of peoples feelings IT should only concern itself with rights AND there is no right not to be offended.

Actually, I was referring to deities in general when I asked "which one", since you were the one talking about God. I wasn't referring to state religions.

Actually I do not recognize any "deities in general" nor do I have to entertain them NOR should the government mandate I do EVEN if it offends you or hurts your feelings.

So you would have no problem with a an Islamic-controlled school board setting Islamic-based policies so long as they were voted in by the community? What if their policies included teaching the inferiority of the Jew?

You know I might have a problem with it and as such I could move or attempt to change it; HOWEVER, the government is not my mommy. As to the disparaging of Jews question or any other question in the same vein -let me suggest you again attempt a straw man. Religion is okay -breaking the law is not -- IF any laws are broken then people should be held accountable. Suggesting or implying that observing [a] particular religion necessitates allowing or condoning illegalities to occur is a flawed premise along the same lines as the other flawed premise you assert -this perspective might be termed "religiophobia"?

What of the people who don't worship the deity of the majority?

What of the DUmmiecrats who do not wish to follow the government OF the majority. The concept of majority is nothing new, the concept of self determination and local determination is nothing new. The concept of religious freedom is nothing new. IT is only the leftist ploy and flawed premise that comprises the concept of "hurt feelings" and "being offended" that is new. SO, what of the minority [them] -Well there is no "what" --one just has to look around and one can see people in the public domain crying indignantly that their feelings are hurt -people like the morally liberal, the leftists, the morally devoid, the ACLU etcetera... [they] are the minority and as such they can legitimately do nothing SO they illegitimately employ judicial activism to impose their secular theology -the minority with the aid of the state is imposing its religion upon the majority... Again, the government should not be in the business of consoling peoples feelings nor imposing religious mandates...

235 posted on 01/08/2006 3:46:36 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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