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Streisand: "Is This The Democracy We Are Fighting For?"
barbrastreisand.com ^ | 1/3/06 | Barbra Streisand

Posted on 01/09/2006 8:12:32 AM PST by kiriath_jearim

Is This The Democracy We Are Fighting For? ...Barbra Streisand

Posted on January 3, 2006

Why are we really fighting this war? First it was the search for WMDs. None were found. Then it was hunting for the terrorists and "smoking them out." Weve only created a breeding ground for more terrorists. Finally, President Bush insisted the mission in Iraq was worth it in order to bring democracy to the country and unseat Saddam Hussein, a very bad guy, but one who was contained economically, politically and militarily. Remember, he was our ally in the fight against Iran.

And there are many countries that need democracy, but the United States has not gone in militarily and usurped control. But Iraq has oil and Bush has a lot of big oil friends.

For the past 2 ‡ years, the President has exhausted the public with his rhetoric that building a democracy in Iraq will establish a peaceful civil society that will ultimately be an ally in the war on terror. In speech after speech, the country has heard the message point hammered home from Bush, Cheney, Condi and Rumsfeld: A free democratic Iraq is central to the war on terrorism. But judging by the climate of violence and unrest that still continues in Iraq, that battle is far from being won.

Central to the creation of a free and democratic Iraq was the notion of having the Iraqi people elect their own leaders. Amid great anticipation, the Iraqi elections were held in December. The good news is that there was strong turnout, little violence and large-scale participation by Sunni Muslims, who along with the Kurds, are the underrepresented, minority religious faction in Iraq. The White House heavily supported and hoped for Ayad Allawi to be victorious. While a Shiite, he believed in a modern secular government. The bad news is that the Administration, in their desperation to present the world with a successful and free Iraq election, had largely ignored the growing fury felt by many Sunni Arabs over the dominance of fanatical religious Shiites, who seek to implement their own version of fundamental Islamic law.

The Administrations biggest fear was the possibility of a fundamentalist Shiite controlled Iraqi government, and that is now the likely reality. With the recent Iraqi election, the only regime that we have helped to erect is a theocratic one, where fundamental Islamic law will likely continue to repress the Iraqi people, spread religious intolerance and deny basic rights to women. Is this what we are fighting for?

The result of the December election has plunged Iraq into political turmoil. Preliminary results showed the advancement of the United Iraqi Coalition, supported by the Shiite religious figure Ayatullah Ali al-Seistani. Days after the election, Sunni Arab leaders had angrily rejected early election results, saying that the vote has been fixed to favor the Shiite majority party. Sunni Arab politicians have threatened to boycott the political process altogether, which would be a serious set back for the Bush Administration.

With the religious Shiite faction having gained control of the Iraqi government, religious law will be high on their agenda. The Islamic law that is favored by the Shiite fundamentalists has horrible implications for women. "Personal status" law, which governs marriage, divorce, inheritance, burial, and other issues, will likely replace the uniform civil code. It is possible that the December election may be the first and last "free" election the Iraqi people will participate in.

The fundamentalist Shiites have strong ties to Iran. With the Shiite victory, Iran will now become a close ally to Iraq and even more of a threat to the United States. In addition to proudly announcing their nuclear capability, Irans unstable President, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, called the Holocaust a 'myth' and pledged to destroy Israel. This new alliance is dangerous for the US and far from the secular democratic government that the Bush Administration naively envisioned for a dictatorless Iraq.

Is this the democracy that we have been fighting for? Or has the Bush Administration failed once more in their mission to make America safer. There are no WMDs, there is an increasing anti-American sentiment in the Middle East and around the world, chances for a true democracy in Iraq are slim and a dangerous alliance between Iraq and Iran is likely. The Bush administration has made a mess in Iraq that they seem incapable of cleaning up. And speech after highly publicized speech by the President will not change this reality.


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1 posted on 01/09/2006 8:12:33 AM PST by kiriath_jearim
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To: kiriath_jearim

Will this dim bulb ever shut up?


2 posted on 01/09/2006 8:13:30 AM PST by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches, hard to get rid of.>)
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To: golfisnr1

Furthermore, who is the "we" of which she speaks?


3 posted on 01/09/2006 8:13:54 AM PST by Christian4Bush (Over THREE THOUSAND PEOPLE lost their 'civil liberties' on September 11, 2001.)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Hey Babs...how were your high school grades?


4 posted on 01/09/2006 8:14:01 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Chum in the water! :)


5 posted on 01/09/2006 8:14:45 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: kiriath_jearim

Wow, she's got a big orifice!


6 posted on 01/09/2006 8:14:48 AM PST by MarineBrat (Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand.)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Aah, celebrities.... is there anything they don't know?
7 posted on 01/09/2006 8:15:10 AM PST by Nihil Obstat
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To: kiriath_jearim

My response to Babs?
All you have to do is read my tagline. LOL


8 posted on 01/09/2006 8:15:31 AM PST by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots. Semper Fi!)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Is there a Jewish equivalent of EXCOMMUNICATION?............


9 posted on 01/09/2006 8:16:46 AM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Babs b*tches but offers no real solutions. How would she do things differently in the Middle East? Granted, we've made mistakes but we've also made progress. Much of which has been ignored in the MSM. There so many errors in Barbara Streisand's piece, it would take too long to lay them all out. However, wishing for an American defeat in Iraq is not going to make America more secure.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

10 posted on 01/09/2006 8:18:46 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: kiriath_jearim
"Remember, he was our ally in the fight against Iran."

I thought WE were Iraq's ally with THEIR war with Iran? WTF?


11 posted on 01/09/2006 8:19:56 AM PST by jdm (WWW-WEBMASTER (My grandfather swears it's his email address))
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To: kiriath_jearim

If it was anyone else but BS, I'd say "Shut up and Sing" but her singing annoys me just as much as her lame opinion.


12 posted on 01/09/2006 8:20:00 AM PST by ravingnutter
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To: kiriath_jearim

There's nothing wrong with fighting oil. The entire world needs oil. I presume Ms. Streisand's estate uses some oil as do her automobiles, and perhaps the private jets she hires or owns. I'll bet oil is even needed to make CDs with her songs on them.

But we aren't fighting for oil. If we were, we've done a lousy job controlling the price, haven't we?

She has no historical perspective; no sense of the past. America did not simply fall out of the sky and begin operating. It was FOUGHT for, over many, many years by men and women who had lots of courage.


13 posted on 01/09/2006 8:20:05 AM PST by RexBeach ("There is no susbstitute for victory." -Douglas MacArthur)
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To: kiriath_jearim

I read a few paragraphs and then a question arose in my brain - why the hell am I wasting my time reading the foreign policy blatherings of this rotten old half-retarded dingbat?


15 posted on 01/09/2006 8:21:26 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: MarineBrat

Nothing that any of us would want to go near..


16 posted on 01/09/2006 8:21:54 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Red Badger

It's called "Cherem".


17 posted on 01/09/2006 8:22:44 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: kiriath_jearim

Where's the barf alert? Amen.


18 posted on 01/09/2006 8:23:19 AM PST by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: Pookyhead

The latter would need a large tent..


19 posted on 01/09/2006 8:23:26 AM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: kiriath_jearim
Arrogant, mega-hypocrite washed-up hag Streisand is beyond tolerance. All the make-up she applies with a spatula is weighing too heavy on her tiny little mini-brain.


20 posted on 01/09/2006 8:23:30 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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