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Canada's once mighty Liberals in serious trouble
Reuters ^ | 01/12/06 | Reuters

Posted on 01/12/2006 11:34:44 AM PST by Pikamax

OTTAWA (Reuters) - Canada's once mighty Liberal Party is in serious trouble in the final run-up to the January 23 election, beset by a stumbling campaign, internal divisions and a series of embarrassing gaffes.

The party, in power since 1993, has dominated Canadian politics for a century. It is famed for its professionalism and long ago earned the nickname "The Big Red Machine".

But the Liberals never really recovered from a kickback scandal in 2004, which badly undermined Prime Minister Paul Martin in the eyes of voters already seeking change.

Senior Liberals privately admit the party stands virtually no chance of beating the Conservatives of Stephen Harper, who have moved past the Liberals to take a comfortable lead in recent opinion polls.

"We're done," confided a prominent Liberal legislator. "It's all over," said one well-placed official. Some fret they could be out of power for up to a decade.

"The talk inside senior Liberal circles is already focussing on the succession and rebuilding the party. Defeat on January 23 is pretty much taken for granted," said one person with access to the top ranks of the party.

But Scott Reid, the chief spokesman for Martin, dismissed any talk of defeat.

"The mood is good -- very good. We've got time and we've got advantages. We'll make ample use of them both," he said.

Martin, who took over from Liberal predecessor Jean Chretien in December 2003, has long been criticised for his indecisiveness and heavy reliance on a small group of relatively inexperienced advisers.

He let the Conservatives set the election campaign agenda early on but ran into trouble when he began to present his own policies, some of which differed little from ones he used in the June 2004 campaign. Others were clearly thought up at the last moment.

"The campaign is in a bizarre state ... There's no policy they won't change overnight if a focus group says it's not popular," said one senior Liberal. "This has been a lousy government and frankly they deserve to lose."

Signs of disarray are easy to find. Unhappy officials talk openly to the press. Local party workers complain about a lack of volunteers. One frustrated party analyst swore on live television during a discussion.

The Liberal policy document was leaked before its official launch and when the party unveiled a series of attack ads against Harper, it was forced to scrap one spot which suggested the Conservatives would impose martial law if elected.

Martin was peppered with so many questions from reporters about that ad on Thursday that it largely obscured the policy announcement he was trying to put across.

The media have been more critical in this campaign and many commentators mocked Martin's surprise announcement this week that he would focus on scrapping an obscure clause in the constitution.

"It's time for Paul Martin to fire his chief strategist. The trouble is, I suspect his chief strategist is him," wrote columnist Margaret Wente in the Globe and Mail newspaper, saying he was "seriously out of touch" with Canadians.

To add to Martin's woes there are deep splits between his team and supporters of Chretien, who feel the former prime minister was forced out of power by arch-rival Martin.

As a result, few of the experienced backroom operators who engineered three successive victories for Chretien are helping Martin.

Some Martin backers are muttering about dirty tricks but few in the party take this suggestion seriously.

"Why would Chretien sabotage the campaign? The Martin people are doing a perfectly good job of sabotaging it themselves," said one Liberal.

In a bid to clear the Liberals' name, Martin called an official inquiry into the kickback scandal in 2004, but all this did was fill the news with endless lurid tales of how party members had illegally funnelled money to allies.

This, critics say, badly tarnished the Liberal brand and made it very hard to recover from the revelation a few weeks ago that police were probing a possible leak of sensitive tax policy information from the finance minister's office.

"That is the danger that was always there and that was probably the single biggest catalyst that brought everything back," said one veteran party member.


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canada; canadianelection; harper; martin
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1 posted on 01/12/2006 11:34:44 AM PST by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

Thanks for some good news from the north.


2 posted on 01/12/2006 11:44:02 AM PST by Mears (The Killer Queen:caviar and cigarettes)
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To: Pikamax

Reuters is actually reporting that Liberals are in serious trouble? What, did the Cubs win the series or did he*l freeze over??


3 posted on 01/12/2006 11:46:40 AM PST by GeorgiaDawg32 (Islam is a religion of peace and they'll behead 13 year old girls to prove it...)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

nah... just nothing much to lose

canadian 'conservatives' are along the lines of moderate democrats down here.

no need to worry about socialism declining under 'conservative' canadian power.


4 posted on 01/12/2006 11:54:24 AM PST by kpp_kpp
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To: Pikamax

"We're done," confided a prominent Liberal legislator.

Oh how I yearn to hear these words from the lips of Chuck Schumer, or Ted Kennedy, or Barbara Boxer, or John Kerry, or....


5 posted on 01/12/2006 12:16:38 PM PST by WayneS (Honor the 2nd Amendment; repeal the 16th.)
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To: WayneS

There are reports from New Brunswick last night that 300 Conservative supporters were at a rally across the street from a liberal campaign office with only 2 people in it. Similar reports are coming from Regina. The tides have turned Up Here, EH?


6 posted on 01/12/2006 12:27:40 PM PST by UpHereEh (Standing with the U.S.Eh!)
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To: Pikamax

Hi Pikamax, is there a way to add this post to the News/Activism - Canada section?


7 posted on 01/12/2006 12:29:29 PM PST by UpHereEh (Standing with the U.S.Eh!)
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I don't know how to make the popcorn eating smilie, but if I did that's what I'd post.
8 posted on 01/12/2006 12:36:23 PM PST by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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To: kpp_kpp
canadian 'conservatives' are along the lines of moderate democrats down here.

Um, that's not entirely true.

9 posted on 01/12/2006 12:45:03 PM PST by Ashamed Canadian (America - please invade us now!!)
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To: fanfan

ping


10 posted on 01/12/2006 12:47:30 PM PST by snidely whiplash III
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To: GMMAC; Pikamax; Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; Ryle; ...

Canada Ping!

Please FReepmail me to get on or off this Canada ping list.


11 posted on 01/12/2006 12:52:04 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
or did he*l freeze over??

That one.

It is winter in Kanukistan you know.

Spring starts this year on January the 24th.

;-)

12 posted on 01/12/2006 12:53:50 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: kpp_kpp

Feel free to check our policies at www.conservative.ca

:-)


13 posted on 01/12/2006 12:55:41 PM PST by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: kpp_kpp

NO, actually our conservatives are not akin to moderate RATS. They believe in the family, death penalty, tax cuts, strengthening the young offenders act, etc.

The only thing they have in common is their party colour - blue.

(Which is one thing I never understood about US politics - why did the GOP pick commie red?)


14 posted on 01/12/2006 12:56:53 PM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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To: Pikamax

If the conservatives win in Canada, will the liberals threaten to move to the US? If so, I hope we beef up our border security to keep them out.


15 posted on 01/12/2006 1:02:41 PM PST by 11Bush
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To: kpp_kpp
Up here, Harper's currently being blasted by the Librano$ vermin for his (quite legitimate, BTW) stateside conservative ties, while on FR he's a "moderate democrat" - Sheeesh!


16 posted on 01/12/2006 1:04:51 PM PST by GMMAC (paraphrasing Parrish: "damned Liberals, I hate those bastards!")
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To: timsbella

The Republican Party NEVER picked RED as its color. In fact the Republicans were depicted by BLUE on television political maps through the 1980 Reagan landslide over Carter. One news anchor described the election map that night as "a sea of Republican blue". The Democrats (still in power in the House), smarting over their defeat and weak Cold War defense policies then bitched to the networks about the RED color (commie, pinko, fellow traveler, etc) so that by the 1984 election some of the networks used Republicans as BLUE and some as RED. More of the same in 1988 when Bush(41) won election.

However, by the 1992 Clinton victory, the Democrats had become BLUE and the Republicans were RED. All courtesy of the MSM...


dvwjr


17 posted on 01/12/2006 1:05:03 PM PST by dvwjr
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To: Pikamax

Not getting too enthusiastic yet. There is still those smuggling charges against the CPC candidate in Nelson.

I will be happy if the Liberals lose, just to get the whole ultra socialistic daycare program trashed.


18 posted on 01/12/2006 1:05:06 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Pikamax

Mmm... got my bag of popcorn.


19 posted on 01/12/2006 1:05:25 PM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: 11Bush

A poster on another thread suggested conservatives would move north if Harper was in office and Hillary won ;)


20 posted on 01/12/2006 1:05:37 PM PST by timsbella (Mark Steyn for Prime Minister of Canada!)
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