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Layton Had Surgery At Private Clinic (NDP Socialist Leader-Canadian Election)
CNEWS ^ | Thursday, January 12, 2005

Posted on 01/12/2006 6:03:45 PM PST by UpHereEh

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To: concrete is my business

But the Canadians going to the U.S. are paying out of pocket - no insurance. Medical practitioners and hospitals love this type of patient - one who pays!


21 posted on 01/12/2006 6:25:48 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: beaver fever

There's something that the MSM overlooked today that will help us in vote-rich Ontario next week.

This will bring back into the headlines 2 words that the federal liberals would like to see go away - "liberal" and "scandal". Provincial or Federal what's the difference? We are the only viable option to end corruption and hypocrisy.

Warrant info to be released
Thu, January 12, 2006
By GILLIAN LIVINGSTON, CP

TORONTO -- Federal prosecutors will not appeal a ruling ordering them to unseal the information used by police to obtain search warrants naming former provincial Finance Minister Greg Sorbara and others.

In a letter yesterday to lawyers involved in the case, the Crown said it will disclose early next week almost all information used to obtain the warrants. Initially, prosecutors had sealed all of the information used.

A judge later ruled the Crown had to release an edited portion, but that didn't satisfy media outlets and others -- including Sorbara -- who demanded all the information be unsealed.

"My objective since Oct. 11 has been singular and that is to clear my name," Sorbara said from his home yesterday. "Anything that enhances that and does it quickly is a good thing."

Crown prosecutor Robert Goldstein said the Crown will outline tomorrow the reasons for the decision not to appeal and expects information to be released on Monday.

Some information that might compromise the identity of an informant or give details of a separate investigation will remain sealed, he said.

Sorbara resigned as finance minister last October after he was named in an RCMP warrant relating to a criminal fraud investigation into Royal Group Technologies, where he was once a director. He has stressed repeatedly that he's done nothing wrong.

The warrants led to raids at several companies, including Royal Group and a firm owned by the Sorbara family.

Last month, Sorbara withdrew from a lawsuit seeking to unseal the documents, saying he and his lawyers were pursuing an alternate bid through the Department of Justice and RCMP to clear his name.

No charges have been laid in the case.
http://lfpress.ca/newsstand/CityandRegion/2006/01/12/1390061-sun.html


Also, now that the National Post has taken our side, watch for the Waterfront Scandal to make headlines next week as well.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20060112/WATERFRONT12/TPNational/?query=waterfront


22 posted on 01/12/2006 6:29:39 PM PST by UpHereEh (Standing with the U.S.Eh!)
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To: UpHereEh

Yet another example of the elitists making use of superior facilities while the PEONS have to stand in the beggars' line.


23 posted on 01/12/2006 6:32:39 PM PST by Humidston (Two words: TERM LIMITS!)
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To: Humidston

Well said!


24 posted on 01/12/2006 6:35:44 PM PST by UpHereEh (Standing with the U.S.Eh!)
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To: fanfan

Maybe you're right but it just goes to show that last weeks of the campaign are going to be very nasty.


25 posted on 01/12/2006 6:37:32 PM PST by beaver fever
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To: UpHereEh

I remember listening to a talk show about heathcare, and they had a guy advocating the Canadian system. American doctors would have to give up the notion that they are running a private business and doing it for profit. They must reform their attitude and see their profession as a service, no different from a soldier or police officer. They chose medicine not for money, but as a service thru a government agency and paid a fixed salary. Question is are American doctors willing to be salaried workers in a government agency?


26 posted on 01/12/2006 7:41:57 PM PST by Fee (`+Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: Polybius

My son has a basketball teammate on his college team from Quebec. This young man needed surgery on his miniscus (knee) and called home for referral. His Canadian insurance solution? Send him an airline ticket to Canada where he would be put on a waiting list for the surgery-at least six month's wait. So his mom purchased a policy in the US in which he had the surgery immediately at a local out patient facility here in California. Simply unbelievable.


27 posted on 01/12/2006 7:42:43 PM PST by kmiller1k (remain calm)
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28 posted on 01/12/2006 7:43:59 PM PST by proud_yank (Aspiring CEO of a multinational corporation)
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To: Polybius
Good read
29 posted on 01/12/2006 7:44:16 PM PST by proud_yank (Aspiring CEO of a multinational corporation)
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To: UpHereEh
"Make no mistake about it. Public health care is threatened in Canada.There are those who see the sick as profit centres. And our aging population as an avenue for corporate growth.

Once we’ve pushed back the privatizers, we have to make public medicare better. The people of Canada support public non-profit health care, but in return our health system has to support them – it has to be there when they need it."




Viva la Revolucion!

30 posted on 01/12/2006 7:55:40 PM PST by proud_yank (Aspiring CEO of a multinational corporation)
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To: UpHereEh
Yes he is.

I have been on the forums at Nodice. Leftists there truly believe that Canada has the best Healthcare system in the world. They will tell you that two tier doesn't work. Apparently its a massive failure in the UK and wherever it has been tried.

NDP extremists truly believe those with the financial means should not be allowed to spend their money as they see fit. Didn't Churchill call socialism the politics of envy?
31 posted on 01/12/2006 8:20:08 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: GMMAC

Why won't the wanna be pedophile Svend just go away?


32 posted on 01/12/2006 8:21:47 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Fee

The waiting lines in this country are just beyond belief and people are dying in some cases from lack of available care. The NDP's and libs just don't understand that people need viable options not broken promises.


33 posted on 01/12/2006 8:27:31 PM PST by UpHereEh (Standing with the U.S.Eh!)
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To: Fee
Question is are American doctors willing to be salaried workers in a government agency?

Don't know the answer to that one but if you're saying that Canadian doctors are you're wrong. They operate their own private practices , keep their own hours , pay their own staff and aren't on salary . Contrary to some posts I've read on FR they're not on any kind of quota either.

Shouldice Clinic is a privately owned clinic that has developed special procedures to deal with all types of hernias . My wife's uncle had a double hernia repaired there last fall ( he paid for his stay, about $800 , OHIP the rest ) . IIRC , from their web site , about a third of their patients are American .

34 posted on 01/12/2006 8:28:22 PM PST by Snowyman
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They may have their own offices but there are other issues they have to deal with. No quotas per se but in Ontario there is an annual cap on the amount that they can bill the system, which is why it's almost impossible to get an appointment in December (most close their offices when they max out). Also, the NDP has long advocated turning doctors into salaried employees.


35 posted on 01/13/2006 3:38:11 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (Proudly Christian since 2005)
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To: beaver fever
I agree this does not help us.

Hard line lefties will consider moving back to the Libs and/or Greens to punish Layton. To some degree, they will weigh their conscience versus stopping the Conservatives. Either way it helps the Libs more the us. More importantly, it reinforces the nonsense opinion of some voters, who may be swaying Conservatives that "they are all the same". So long as they hold on to that opinion, idiots like my in-laws, will convince themselves to vote Lib.
36 posted on 01/13/2006 4:59:59 AM PST by thecanuck
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To: thecanuck
If the libs go after Layton and continue to triangulate against Harper's seemingly anti native strategy Harper could fall short on the finish line.

There are not a lot of votes in the native community but they have a lot of pull in the resource sector and a lot of sympathy among non anglos and non francos.

Make not mistake natives are an untapped wedge constituency
37 posted on 01/13/2006 5:13:48 AM PST by beaver fever
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