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Spain rebuffs U.S. on sale to Venezuela (Spain decides to sell weapons to Chavez)
Big News Network ^ | Saturday 14th January, 2006

Posted on 01/14/2006 3:13:35 PM PST by Paul_Denton

Spain rebuffed Washington's appeal to refuse military sales to Venezuela, saying Friday it will sell the South American nation military boats and jets.

The United States has refused to grant a re-export license for the U.S. components of the Spanish aircraft and patrol boats that make up a proposed $2 billion deal, the Financial Times reported. In addition, the United States has asked Spain not to supply Caracas with arms.

But late Friday Spanish state radio quoted Defense Ministry sources in Madrid as saying the big military deal would go ahead and substitute technology would come from European sources.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: armsbuildup; chavez; communisum; eu; europe; southamerica; spain; venezuela
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To: Paul_Denton
Stain's homegrown aerospace technology. Not sure if this is what they intend to sell Chavez.
41 posted on 01/14/2006 4:38:48 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: operation clinton cleanup

Looks like a target drone LOL. Seriously a trainer. But still anthing short of another F-22 is going to be no match for us ;)


42 posted on 01/14/2006 4:40:49 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Tagine under repair.)
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To: Americanexpat

We are not at war with them now. But he is a guy we should keep a close eye on. Right now he is Castro the Lite version. But he has been getting rather cozy with China and Russia.


43 posted on 01/14/2006 4:44:02 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Tagine under repair.)
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To: J.Birch

Exactly.


44 posted on 01/14/2006 4:44:10 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: Paul_Denton

I agree we need to stay focused on Castro,Chavez, and now Bolivian coke lord Morales.


45 posted on 01/14/2006 4:45:57 PM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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To: operation clinton cleanup
Not sure what aircraft Stain wants to sell Chavez, but if they do not have American components, not sure what value they have.

I think what you mean to say is you don't have a clue

10 CN-295 light transports

2 CN-235 MPA patrol aircraft

Useful little aircraft, but only would worry about them

46 posted on 01/14/2006 4:46:31 PM PST by Oztrich Boy ("What is the sense in 'atin' those 'oom you are paid to kill?" - Kipling)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

By the way that looks like one of the remote control planes I used to chase dogs and cats with as a kid. :D


47 posted on 01/14/2006 4:47:00 PM PST by MARKUSPRIME
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To: MARKUSPRIME

Exactly. Watch and be prepared to deal with the problems before they become problems.


48 posted on 01/14/2006 4:49:16 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Tagine under repair.)
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To: Oztrich Boy
I think what you mean to say is you don't have a clue

Yes, but the brokeback image was totally uncalled for!

49 posted on 01/14/2006 4:58:56 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: operation clinton cleanup

Just ignore anyone who tries to flame you.


50 posted on 01/14/2006 5:01:28 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Tagine under repair.)
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To: Paul_Denton
I have been around long enough not to be concerned about a brokeback ostrich humper claiming I am clueless. FR is all about informing those less informed, without copping an elitist attitude.
51 posted on 01/14/2006 5:10:55 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: operation clinton cleanup
FR is all about informing those less informed

Here to help.


FYI. Even if you don't ping me when you flame me, I can still see your post.

52 posted on 01/14/2006 5:18:34 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering)
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To: operation clinton cleanup; Oztrich Boy
FR is all about informing those less informed, without copping an elitist attitude.

I agree.

And Ostrich Boy, your flame was uncalled for. What did he do to you?

53 posted on 01/14/2006 5:22:43 PM PST by Paul_Denton (Tagine under repair.)
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To: Oztrich Boy
It was not a flame. If you have something constructive add, go ahead. Calling me clueless when I admitted I didn't know the facts is not useful.
54 posted on 01/14/2006 5:33:22 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Oztrich Boy

but I guess ostrich humper was a semi-flame... I retract that description!


55 posted on 01/14/2006 5:35:29 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Paul_Denton; operation clinton cleanup
And Ostrich Boy, your flame was uncalled for

I concede that my terse attitude may have been uncalled for as a response to operation clinton cleanup's original #27, in itself

However in the light of the subsequent posts where he and another poster made ill-informed speculation on the details, decideded the anything the Spanish made would be crap anyway, and whatever it was, the manly us of A could and should blow them away - there comes a point where "You haven't a clue" is justified.

It's a tinpot dictator buying a dozen light tarnsports/patrol aircraft - end of story.

56 posted on 01/14/2006 5:43:41 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering)
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To: Paul_Denton

It's just the socialist, anti-American government of Spain supporting the socialist, anti-American and soon to be Stalinist government of Venezuela.


57 posted on 01/14/2006 5:45:06 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Oztrich Boy
It's a tinpot dictator buying a dozen light tarnsports/patrol aircraft - end of story.

You should have posted that in the first place, thus not revealing your animosity towards the "manly us of A".

58 posted on 01/14/2006 5:54:43 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: operation clinton cleanup
thus not revealing your animosity towards the "manly us of A".

No animosity. just the observation that there is too much bluster on this thread.

OK not really by you. I should have recognised you were led astray by bad company and posted my original to someone else.

59 posted on 01/14/2006 6:04:22 PM PST by Oztrich Boy (Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering)
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To: Oztrich Boy
No animosity. just the observation that there is too much bluster on this thread.

That is the nature of FreeReepblic... Public discourse is not pretty or factual, but sure beats no information at all. It's up to the end user to decide what is important.

60 posted on 01/14/2006 6:14:01 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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