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To: kimosabe31; doug from upland; ALOHA RONNIE; DLfromthedesert; PatiPie; flamefront; onyx; ...
Carville is clearly mentally disordered...
LOL!

The crowd of (for the most part) clean-cut young men and women quite obviously HUNGERED for insightful political commentary, which they got in MASSIVE QUANTITIES from Ann, but only in "bumper sticker" sound bites from Carville, who at times seemed like a worn out old Vegas lounge act, unsuccessfully trying out new material -- apparently crafted for the yokels in some backwater hick town.

His opening monologue, for example, included jokes about his being drunk at his own college graduation ("I had a 4.0...pause...blood alcohol level") -- and his wishing that he could have participated in Jocelyn Elder's proposed masturbation curriculum, because he "would have enjoyed the homework."
His stock speech was completely inappropriate for this event, PARTICULARLY at a solidly Catholic university, founded by Jesuits, and STILL quite conservative.
And, it went down hill from there.
Even worse (for HIM) was the crowd's response to his attempts to throw them chunks of the kind of hard core left wing political "red meat," that might worked at a Michael Moore movie opening, but fell COMPLETELY flat in this respectful gathering.
LOTS of "crickets" -- awkward silences with everyone's eyes averted -- where the applause line was obviously intended to be.
The LMU students (and staff) often seemed to be "on their best behavior" -- (perhaps mindful of the recent boombox disaster at UCONN, which made the UNIVERSITY look like fools, not Ann) -- but even the handful of Carville supporters had a hard time getting fired up about his frequent references to the, wait for it:
"Mess in Mesopotamia!"

(Who WRITES his stuff, anyway?)

Carville's OTHER primary theme for the evening was that President Bush had instituted a "consumption-based" philosophy, based on his telling the country to "go shopping" after 9/11.
From THAT slim thread, he tried to weave a web of stale bromides about energy independence, global warming and congressional corruption.
Not a pretty sight. The audience was NOT going for such simplistic rhetoric.
If Carville was "field testing" material for the Hildabeast in 2008 campaign, they are in SERIOUS trouble!

30 posted on 01/20/2006 7:19:26 PM PST by RonDog
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To: RonDog
Carville has been a very effective propagandist in the past. It sounds as if he's burned out.
32 posted on 01/20/2006 7:31:40 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: RonDog
PARTICULARLY at a solidly Catholic university

There is nothing particularly Catholic about Loyola. Those of us who remain faithful Catholics usually do it in spite of our Jesuit educations these days. I speak as an LMU alum.

34 posted on 01/20/2006 7:40:37 PM PST by pbear8 (I have to wait until Monday for '24'!!!! =()
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To: RonDog

Great Job! All the best, Cal Freepers. What a refreshing change from the usual college speaking circuit.


38 posted on 01/20/2006 7:51:07 PM PST by IslandJeff
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To: RonDog
"Mess in Mesopotamia!" (Who WRITES his stuff, anyway?)

He ripped it off from Jon Stewart.

46 posted on 01/20/2006 8:42:32 PM PST by ntnychik
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To: RonDog
But it is good that people listened politely and respectfully to both. I often think that the one thing that defeats the left is when we can get people to actually listen to what they are saying; the Dems have had some talented operatives and bomb throwers, but when folks will actually LISTEN and think about what they are saying THEN they realize that the only things Clinton did that worked were stolen from the Republicans, etc...
52 posted on 01/20/2006 9:52:36 PM PST by RedStateRocker
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To: RonDog
...Even worse (for HIM) was the crowd's response to his attempts to throw them chunks of the kind of hard core left wing political "red meat," that might worked at a Michael Moore movie opening, but fell COMPLETELY flat in this respectful gathering.
LOTS of "crickets" -- awkward silences with everyone's eyes averted -- where the applause line was obviously intended to be.
ANOTHER Carville fiasco was his attempt to re-frame the POWERFUL term "politically correct" that we use to (accurately) attack the left...
...by referring the Left's CONSTANT whine that we are always "attacking their patriotism."
His lame attempt went something like this:
"People who ask questions (about President Bush's policy in Iraq) should not have to face the 'PATRIOT correct' police."

That attempt to provoke the masses got absolutely NO response from the LMU audience, and I remember thinking to myself, "This is a tough crowd..." -- for CARVILLE!" :o)


145 posted on 01/22/2006 2:20:33 PM PST by RonDog
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