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1 posted on 01/22/2006 10:24:03 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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2 posted on 01/22/2006 10:26:16 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature - Jim Beam)
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The first nationwide study of day laborers also found that one in five has been injured on the job and nearly half have been cheated out of pay.

Rulings have come down that illegals are entitled to workers compensation if injured on the job.

The state could seek reimbursement from the individual that hired the illegal for medical expenses paid out by the state for an injured illegal. I don't know whether homeowners insurance would cover it, since it is unlawful to hire illegals.

4 posted on 01/22/2006 10:31:49 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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“The immigrant day laborers who wait for work on street corners across the United States have families and attend church regularly, The authors said they were surprised by the level of community involvement among men often thought of as transients”

So they are family men now having an impact on our communities? Yea, here is an example left by their kids;

People who are poor need to work, but downright lying about the great additions to our community isn’t going to get any sympathy here.
5 posted on 01/22/2006 10:47:29 PM PST by seastay
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The laws protect honest people from dishonest employers. I'm sure that this guy IS a good person but because he's illegal, I'm not surprised some trash contractor would stiff him. My sister sees it all the time working in the banking industry.


13 posted on 01/23/2006 3:20:03 AM PST by cyborg (I just love that man.)
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"...Among the other findings based on the interviews conducted in July and August 2004:

"_Three-fourths were illegal immigrants and most were Hispanic: 59 percent were from Mexico and 28 percent from other Central American countries..."

That pretty well substantiates what most of us have been writing and consistently so for a while now, despite being called "racists" and whatnot. Looks like the stats support the by-far majority of illegal aliens are from Mexico. It's a fact, and raising that point does not make anyone guilty of a pejorative (or more of them), to state the obvious.

Another thing, rhetorically: if these guys (the one quoted in this article, who seems on average about of the same situation as many others I've read of) feel so outraged at conditions based upon a responsibility to their family/ies, why are they leaving their families (wives, children) and making illegal entrance to another country, many hundreds of thousands of miles away, and, remaining here all these years...if they're so worried about their families, why aren't they home with them.

Does not ring true, sincere, to my read. I think a lot of these people are just here. They bring "families" into the explanations but their actions certainly don't bespeak of a highly responsible relationship to "family."

The expenses for living in the U.S. are far higher than living in Mexico and if they have substantial settings enough in Mexico (and whereever else) to actually HAVE "families" (a wife and children), it seems to me that they are very likely to also already have established homes in Mexico (and whereever) and, sneaking into the U.S. and remaining here for years on end illegally certainly does not seem realistic, nor responsible, for anyone who DOES have a wife and children. I think it's often a ruse, is my point, to try to make Americans feel guilty about an organized society otherwise (immigration requirements, the fact that one is supposed to apply for permission to enter the U.S./any other country, legitimacy in general).

14 posted on 01/23/2006 3:27:03 AM PST by MillerCreek
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Mr. Sanchez says, "What are we going to do - not work?"

If only Americans - especially welfare recipients - could have that attitude!

I worry about the hordes of illegal immigrants just like everybody else on FR, but they came here for a reason. And a lot of that reason is that many, many Americans want to stand around, slack-jawed, waiting on a paycheck that they didn't earn.


16 posted on 01/23/2006 4:01:49 AM PST by GadareneDemoniac
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Three-fourths were illegal immigrants and most were Hispanic: 59 percent were from Mexico and 28 percent from other Central American countries.

I see the author fails to mention who or where the other 13% are from.


20 posted on 01/23/2006 4:28:17 AM PST by wolfcreek
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The native of Mexico has been in the United States seven years

Seven years and still doing day labor. It must suit him well. Maybe he doesn't like rigid schedules or having to dress to please an employer. He can take off any day he wants and turn down work he doesn't like.

This man wants to be a day laborer. He could get hired at a conventional job today.

21 posted on 01/23/2006 4:31:53 AM PST by Flyer (Does anyone ever PULL the envelope?)
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What the study conveniently ignores is that these 'community minded' stand arounds do not contribute to OUR community. They maintain their own - latin american - society isolated from the rest of us.
Do most of them go to church, of course, out here the Catholic church provides freebies, food programs, safe haven, and political support for illegals from the south. The Churches they attend in California are populated by people just like them and use familiar rites and language.
If you want proof, try talking to a hand full of them; seven or more years in the US and it still takes a translator.

Oh, did I mention that their kids have no reason whatever to accept what they are GIVEN in school and have no respect for the general community...and that no one expects it from them.

24 posted on 01/23/2006 7:10:37 AM PST by norton
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IIRC, some professor at Pepperdine U. did a study of Los Angeles day laborers.
He found that they did NOT want to be given legitimate governmental status.
Even these refugees from Mexico recognize the benefits of not being
tangled in our taxation and "social security" system.


25 posted on 01/23/2006 7:13:14 AM PST by VOA
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31 posted on 01/23/2006 9:46:00 AM PST by Bulldaddy (www.constructionlawblog.net)
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