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It's Pay Or Punish
The Times Leader ^ | 22 January 2006 | Terri Morgan-Besecker

Posted on 01/26/2006 7:00:29 PM PST by buccaneer81

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To: right right
I guess you think its OK for a female to kill her husband while he sleeps because he is abusive.

Show me where I said that, nooB, and stop being an idiot.

The "little girl" crap is uncalled for. But I suspect you may lack the elan to understand that.

Think before you post, nooB.

21 posted on 01/27/2006 7:16:42 AM PST by Allegra (Stamp Out Jet Lag. Abolish Time Zones.)
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To: Allegra

Never said little girl, and never said you said it was OK to anything. You just got your panties in a wad over the little girl comment not even directed to you and stopped thinking. I guess you think name calling is OK, since you called me a "nooB" ??? and an idiot. You do act like a little girl though. Grow up.


22 posted on 01/27/2006 7:27:03 AM PST by right right
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To: right right
I was referring to your friend on here whom you were defending. His comments were the subjet of your post, were they not? Are your comprehension skills deficient? (Obviously.)

I have rules here on FR. I don't engage with people who:

Atribute an opinion to me which I never stated.
Take me deliberately out of context.
Come off aggressively from the start in a pathetic attempt to intimidate. (Don't waste your time; you're clearly no match for me. Better men than you have failed.)

You have violated all three.

Therefore, I am through with you. Buh-bye! ;-)

23 posted on 01/27/2006 7:33:45 AM PST by Allegra (Stamp Out Jet Lag. Abolish Time Zones.)
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To: Allegra

I'm sorry! I started a discussion with a fool, which is my fault. That's the problem with this medium, fools like you can lurk and hide.


24 posted on 01/27/2006 7:41:26 AM PST by right right
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To: right right
Hey, I'm not hiding, sweetie. Come on to my place and say that stuff to my face. I'm inviting you. {snicker!} You've been amusing; I'll give you that.

Here's some weekend reading for ya:


25 posted on 01/27/2006 7:52:28 AM PST by Allegra (Stamp Out Jet Lag. Abolish Time Zones.)
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To: Dashing Dasher; PaulaB; Millee; Xenalyte; Auntbee
Come on in...the water's great! ;-)

Neanderthal ping.

26 posted on 01/27/2006 8:42:22 AM PST by Allegra (Stamp Out Jet Lag. Abolish Time Zones.)
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To: buccaneer81; Jersey Republican Biker Chick; arasina; colorcountry; JLO; najida; Auntbee; ...

Let's look at this from a different direction....

A woman is raising your kids... both of your kids. Not her kids, not his kids - your in the dual sense - kids! It takes two, remember!?

Kids are expensive. Mom is probably working AT LEAST one full time job to help supplement the $880 you are ordered to pay each month.

You stop making your payments... because of alcoholism....depression...whatever...

What are your kids going to live on while you take a mental health break from life? Would you prefer the mother and the children to be homeless because of their mentally weak father/ex-husband?

What will the kids wear to school, eat for dinner?
Who pays for their doctor bills, new sneakers, the new doll your daughter always wanted?

Why does no one see it from the child's point of view?
Or, how about the single mother who is desperately trying to keep it together while her ex-husband is in rehab?

Blame the woman... she was a whore/slut/b*tch and doesn't deserve anything...blahblahblah...

Same old neanderthal rhetoric from the knuckle draggers around here.





27 posted on 01/27/2006 9:08:31 AM PST by Dashing Dasher (People who live in glass houses, shouldn't walk around naked... or throw stones....)
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To: Allegra
LOL

Lord what a classic pic that is going to be!!!

hehehe

Can we help we are originals? I think not
28 posted on 01/27/2006 9:08:51 AM PST by PaulaB (Maybe)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

I agree with you....

They are trying to justify killing an ex-wife because she is "forcing them" to pay for THEIR CHILDREN!

Good grief....

Don't have them if you don't want them --- for the rest of your life! Kids are forever!


29 posted on 01/27/2006 9:10:15 AM PST by Dashing Dasher (People who live in glass houses, shouldn't walk around naked... or throw stones....)
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To: Big Giant Head
He's probably paying all of her rent, all of her utilities, as well as half of the babysitting while SHE is working.

BS....

No one is living off $880/month with kids these days.

She's probably working two jobs just to keep the kids in food, shelter and clothing.

She probably wouldn't trust him to babysit their kids - with his bouts of "depression and alcoholism".

HE is an unfit parent, who ignores his responsibilites!

If the support payment was unfair... he should petition the court to have it lowered - he should not just think he's getting away with not supporting HIS KIDS!

30 posted on 01/27/2006 9:13:45 AM PST by Dashing Dasher (People who live in glass houses, shouldn't walk around naked... or throw stones....)
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To: Deepkimche

Your situation has nothing to do with this story.

For you...

DO: See a lawyer and get it fixed.

DON'T: Blame every women in the world for your situation.


31 posted on 01/27/2006 9:15:12 AM PST by Dashing Dasher (People who live in glass houses, shouldn't walk around naked... or throw stones....)
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To: Dashing Dasher

My daughter is paying her ex child support. She works from home and is their day care provider before and after school 5 days a week regardless of whether or not it is her "custody" time, otherwise they share custody...one week with dad, one week with mom.

Dad was clever enough to manipulate the calendar so that we has custody of the kids ONE MORE DAY PER YEAR. Based upon court ordered calculations, she pays him.


32 posted on 01/27/2006 9:17:29 AM PST by colorcountry (Currently not in the process of becoming a God!)
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To: PaulaB
Oh, that pic is going in my links, so that I have it at the ready at all times.

It just says it all so....eloquently. ;-)

33 posted on 01/27/2006 9:18:40 AM PST by Allegra (Stamp Out Jet Lag. Abolish Time Zones.)
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To: PaulaB
Oh, that pic is going in my links, so that I have it at the ready at all times.

It just says it all so....eloquently. ;-)

34 posted on 01/27/2006 9:18:48 AM PST by Allegra (Stamp Out Jet Lag. Abolish Time Zones.)
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To: Allegra
Why the heck are my posts going on TWICE??

There's a weird warp between here and Jim Rob's sever in California....

35 posted on 01/27/2006 9:20:09 AM PST by Allegra (Stamp Out Jet Lag. Abolish Time Zones.)
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To: colorcountry

Moral to the story....

It's dangerous to marry a scumbag, even if he started out in sheeps clothing.

I just pray that no one takes these disagreements out on the kids.


36 posted on 01/27/2006 9:20:13 AM PST by Dashing Dasher (People who live in glass houses, shouldn't walk around naked... or throw stones....)
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To: Dashing Dasher

Yep, we'd best be careful about whom we choose to mate with, married or otherwise.


37 posted on 01/27/2006 9:21:22 AM PST by colorcountry (Currently not in the process of becoming a God!)
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To: mc6809e

>I get to say it a second time today:

>Men are legally slaves to their ex-wives and children.

And that, my friend, is the truth.


38 posted on 01/27/2006 9:26:36 AM PST by TheBrotherhood
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To: garandgal
Why did he spend this money repeatedly; out of his own pocket?

Don't tell me you are advocating that the taxpayers should pick up the tab. In the grand scheme of things, these are personal squabbles. No offense, but I don't think my tax dollars should be used for your relative's life choices.

39 posted on 01/27/2006 9:45:18 AM PST by Go Gordon (I don't know what your problem is, but I bet its hard to pronounce)
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To: Dashing Dasher; Big Giant Head; Allegra; colorcountry
If the support payment was unfair... he should petition the court to have it lowered - he should not just think he's getting away with not supporting HIS KIDS!

That's exactly it! So many people spout off about the poor guy who has to pay too much when they are out of work, etc. As a single mother who is putting two sons through college, and my ex- just got back to work after being laid off after 911, I have done my homework.

Each parent pays a percentage toward raising the child, depending on each parent's income and employability. If the financial situation of either parent changes, a simple modification to the child support order can be filed. No rocket science involved. Maybe a $25 filing file. I know, because I did it!!!!

Since all this support is supposed to be in the best interest of the child, maybe it is also a good idea for the parents to communicate as well. (Duh!) My ex- kept me informed of his situation, and he helped out when he could. And the kids still respected him for at least trying. Can't stress it enough: Whatever is in the best interests of the child!

40 posted on 01/27/2006 11:03:23 AM PST by phantomworker (Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool...and don't accuse me of your imagination.)
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