I said I live in Redford *now*. I didn't say I grew up there.
Warren? Have you noticed how the Detroit squalor passed the 8 Mile barrier years ago and is slowly working its way out along Van Dyke?
Southfield? You mean you haven't noticed how rough the southern part of that city is and has been for a good 10-15 years? And how the new color barrier in Southfield is all the way out to 13 Mile, from Southfield Rd to Evergreen?
Ok, you're not from Auburn Hills. Would it be all-white Lake Orion? Detroit has been expanding geographically for a long time. The metro area extends almost to Flint to the north, and to Ann Arbor out west. US-23 north of I-96 and south of Flint is going gangbusters. Point is, as the suburbs change with even the lower classes moving out of the city and pushing the white exodus even further(been to Macomb Twp?), there are plenty of pockets *in* the city that aren't quite as crime ridden as in the past. Simply because there aren't as many people left.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Burbs are just as bad as Downtown.
Hype, spin. You are only making the case that the entire area is one that no one wants to visit. Geez, you sound like you're from Toledo. In other cities, you know when you are entering a bad neighborhood. In the Greater Detroit area and Downriver, you take a wrong turn and you're in a war zone.
And excuse me, FRiend but perhaps you should ask my black sister what I think of those "Lily-White" and "All-White" communities.
Know who you are speaking to before you throw in that race card.