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Bush to propose cuts in fighter plane production, Army Reserve
http://www.estripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=34657 ^ | January 29, 2006 | Lolita C. Baldor

Posted on 01/30/2006 10:34:57 AM PST by Blogger

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Cut something else. Not our military.
1 posted on 01/30/2006 10:35:00 AM PST by Blogger
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To: Blogger

Cut foreign aide! Cut foreign aide! Cut foreign aide! Cut foreign aide!

Cut social services and student loans.


2 posted on 01/30/2006 10:36:13 AM PST by One Proud Dad
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absolutely


3 posted on 01/30/2006 10:36:50 AM PST by Blogger
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Doesn't sound like a 'cut', more like a restructuring. More AP posturing.


4 posted on 01/30/2006 10:37:32 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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This is stupid. Why are they cutting programs we need to defend ourselves?

Reduce expenditurtes on something else instead.

This is not wise.


5 posted on 01/30/2006 10:38:30 AM PST by RexBeach ("There is no substitute for victory." -Douglas MacArthur)
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Why don't we just stop giving $$$$$ to Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and the Paleosteinians? That's several billion dollars right there.


6 posted on 01/30/2006 10:39:13 AM PST by oolatec
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To: RexBeach

Short term funding gain. Not wise in the long run. On either the JSF or the Reserves.


7 posted on 01/30/2006 10:39:25 AM PST by Blogger
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To: Indy Pendance

Not with the JSF. The alternate engine program is slated to be CUT. That means no competition to keep prices down and if there is something wrong with the primary engine, no backup.


8 posted on 01/30/2006 10:40:24 AM PST by Blogger
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To: RexBeach
This is stupid. Why are they cutting programs we need to defend ourselves? Reduce expenditurtes on something else instead. This is not wise.

Don't believe MSM spin for starters - The fact is these are wise and needed moves within our military. We are moving some of our Reserve Units to be replaced by "Active Units"....this is very much needed and the correct course of action.

As for the F-22 program...over the full 7-9 years more planes will be added....there is just a decrease in the numbers in the next several years (and we are only talking less then 6 total aircraft here!....which is my understanding at this point).

9 posted on 01/30/2006 10:41:03 AM PST by SevenMinusOne
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JSF????


10 posted on 01/30/2006 10:41:38 AM PST by Blogger
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The JSF is a dog in many aspects to begin with - And the other reality is we are moving "Reserve Units" into "Active Duty Units" - This is a wise move in both the short and long term.


11 posted on 01/30/2006 10:42:29 AM PST by SevenMinusOne
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And, what is taking it's place? Maybe new and improved engines? This article doesn't go into that, it's just a bash Bush because some restructuring is going on. Funny how the liberal media takes this 'pro military' position, only to get conservatives riled up. The details haven't been elaborated upon.


12 posted on 01/30/2006 10:43:17 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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Proposing something like this is not politically astute.

Giving the Democrats an issue to run on is not good strategery.

Given that K.Rowe has said the Republicans are running on National Defense and that the legacy media has incorrectly predicted what G.W. would say before, I do not credit it much.
13 posted on 01/30/2006 10:43:51 AM PST by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: DevSix

I disagree on the JSF. Plus, they aren't doing away with that program altogether. Just the alternate engine (produced by GE and Rolls Royce). Blair has written and spoke with Bush on 3 occasions asking him to save the program. Bush has basically turned his back on Blair. Not wise.


14 posted on 01/30/2006 10:45:07 AM PST by Blogger
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To: RexBeach

I suspect that this is a play to the left. Remember when Bush announced wupport of the assault weaposn ban? He did so knowing fully well that he was writing a check that would never be cashed. He pissed off a lot of the pro-gun types, but eventually they settled down and realized that it was just stragery.


15 posted on 01/30/2006 10:45:28 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Indy Pendance

Apparently nothing. The JSF is the future. If this decision stands, it is in the hands of one engine company (on the American side).


16 posted on 01/30/2006 10:46:13 AM PST by Blogger
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I hope you are right. I know there is opposition on Capitol Hill regarding killing the program. Don't know about the reserves part. But, I would just as soon he not do anything but enhance our military.


17 posted on 01/30/2006 10:47:14 AM PST by Blogger
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So, you have knowledge of future military plans not yet disclosed? Should we have abandoned muskets for new and improved rifles? We don't know all the details, and keeping some things quiet from the media is good. Remember when the stealth fighter was first shown to the public? That was in the works for years before anyone knew about it. I still believe this is nothing more than a hit piece to get conservatives mad at this adminstration.


18 posted on 01/30/2006 10:49:20 AM PST by Indy Pendance
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it also means slapping the UK in the face after their investment and commitment to the program from the time it was awarded to LM.

I don't think it could be politically feasible to do that. At best it would be hideously stupid.

Then what, we spit on the other 6-7 allies who also have invested in the JSF?

The JSF is starting to roll off the assembly line. Not a great time to do a 180 with any part of it.

And coming from Ohio where we are still depressed in certain areas (Dayton for one), we don't need any more bad economic news. It would be a good way to turn the state completely blue (and then I would have to move).


19 posted on 01/30/2006 10:49:48 AM PST by SusaninOhio
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You are 100% spot-on!

LLS
20 posted on 01/30/2006 10:52:09 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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