[Dane]

Normally I would agree with you, but were talking Charlie Daniels here! you want to go after some sissy that has never even done a uso tour? Better go get some better mouthwash than that you peddle....I have the utmost respect for Charlie Daniels because he walks the walk, more than he talks the talk. Sniff around a little, go after some left wing wacko if you need to but check out Charlie Daniels record, and then I'd advise some decaff coffee for you

So? Charlie Daniels does not say a word about a good conservative proposal in the Senate by two good conservatives, Kyl/Cornyn, that would help solve the problem.

Kyl/Cornyn is out of sight, out of mind, when it should not be.

[B4Ranch]

Kyl-Cornyn bill offers 5-year work program to illegal aliens.

AMNESTY IS NOT WHAT YOU GIVE TO CRIMINALS!

[itsahoot]

Kyl/Cornyn is out of sight, out of mind, when it should not be.

Still singing that same old monotone song huh Dane, how about leaving the singing up to the old pros like Charlie?

[Lurker]

It's an amnesty program no better than Carters.

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[moehoward]

"So? Charlie Daniels does not say a word about a good conservative proposal in the Senate by two good conservatives, Kyl/Cornyn...."

I know it's hard for you, but please, do try to keep up. Charlie refers to these programs not once, but twice.

" We all know that our Congress usually takes so long in passing meaningful legislation that by the time it becomes law it is, many times, toothless and obsolete."

AND

"... now some politicians want to give them what´s tantamount to having undocumented American citizenship, allowing them to participate in social programs and entitlements."

[Issaquahking]

Hey Dane the comment goes to you too. Neither party has pushed the legisltion, and means, to do something about the illegal situation in the last twenty years. The only reason that it's up-front now is because of the Minute man project.

Try clicking on alien in the popular keywords section on the forum page. Gather a clue that it is one of the most important issues to keep front and center here in America.

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

So? Charlie Daniels does not say a word about a good conservative proposal in the Senate by two good conservatives, Kyl/Cornyn, that would help solve the problem.

Good conservative proposal, eh?

I guess it depends upon the meaning of the word, "good".

The problem with the Kyl/Cornyn proposal is that it contains the very same amnesty provisions that Bush is proposing.

How do I know it's amnesty?

Because there aren't any methods included or identified in either Bush's or Kyl/Cornyn's proposals to deport the so-called 'guest worker' once their 'guest worker' visas expire.

Below is the text of the Temporary Worker program contained in the Kyl/Cornyn proposal. In it's provisions it says that the guest worker must return home after their visas expire.

What methods will be used or actions taken to ensure the worker goes home when his visa expires?

What will be done if the worker refuses to go home?

The proposal also contains provisions that will allow the worker's family members to visit for up to 30 days per year.

What if they don't want to go home? What will be done to ensure they go home at the end of the 30 day period?

What if they don't go? Then what?

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Temporary Worker Program

• Establishes new visa category that allows aliens to enter the U.S. to work temporarily when there are no available U.S. workers
• Limits the period of visa to two years, after which the alien must return home for one year. Alien may participate up to three times (for a total of 6 years of employment in the U.S.)
• Requires completion of background checks, health screening and issuance of biometric documentation to participating aliens
• Establishes a Temporary Worker Task Force to prepare a report on the effect of the temporary worker program on wages and employment of U.S. workers, which would then form basis of cap
• Family members may visit principal worker in the U.S. for no longer than 30 days within a given year