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Bush to say terrorist attack thwarted
Agence France-Presse ^ | February 9, 2006

Posted on 02/09/2006 7:22:28 AM PST by RWR8189

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7th tallest in the U.S.

Was an intended target on 9/11 in addition to the second plot from 2002 which Bush discussed today.

161 posted on 02/09/2006 1:33:17 PM PST by newzjunkey (In 2006: Reelect Arnold; Get GOP Elected in CA; Halt W's Amnesty for Illegals. Win in Iraq.)
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To: TheBrotherhood

Many clowns around here are ready to throw him under the bus because desperate Mexicans sneak in to work. Most of them were anti-Bush from the beginning but many pretend they are conservatives.


162 posted on 02/09/2006 1:37:22 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: lugsoul

See #138.


163 posted on 02/09/2006 1:39:46 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit

Well, that'd have to be a pretty finely calibrated shoe bomb, and I'm still not sure how they avoid catching a beating from a planeload of passengers in that scenario.


164 posted on 02/09/2006 1:47:29 PM PST by lugsoul ("Try not to be sad." - Laura Bush)
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To: lugsoul

how much effort does it take for someone in the Phillipines to practice placing a small piece of plastic explosive on the lock on a cockpit door, and whipping out a Bic lighter or a match to ignite it? After enough practice, someone could do it in 20 seconds. the passengers aren't even going to know what is going on in such a short amount of time to be able to get to the guy in time, especially when two of his jihadi buddies are blocking the aisle.


165 posted on 02/09/2006 1:52:56 PM PST by oceanview
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To: top 2 toe red

Glad to hear that it was only 3 hours.

I'm not sold enough on her contributions that she merited a POTUS visit.


166 posted on 02/09/2006 1:56:46 PM PST by Mike K
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To: lugsoul

Your uncertainty about the effeciency of the terrorists plans is really neither here nor there. It certainly does not seem implausible to blow a door off with a shoe bomb and it could occur so quickly passengers would not have time to do anything.


167 posted on 02/09/2006 2:02:01 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: RWR8189

Now thats good press... In order to shut the Democraps up we do need to shout out our successes however, not at the expense of national security...


168 posted on 02/09/2006 2:05:06 PM PST by tomnbeverly (Psalm 127; Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward.)
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To: oceanview
Well, for the first one it'd have to be, as I said, an explosion calibrated to blow the reinforced door without causing a breach of the plane's envelope - and taking into account the effect of pressurization.

As for the latter, I don't know about you, but the few times I've been near the front of a plane since 9/11, no one walks toward the front without being followed by many, many pairs of eyes.

Then there are air marshals, and perhaps armed pilots.

Call me skeptical. But then again I'm not one of those who attributes any kind of superhuman powers the terrorists, or thinks that just because they want to do something or talk about it that they can actually do it.

But feel free to think this was a real thwarting of a realistic plot, if it makes you feel better.

169 posted on 02/09/2006 2:05:14 PM PST by lugsoul ("Try not to be sad." - Laura Bush)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Implausible? No. Likely to succeed? No again.

Has FR now gone so wobbly that the cries of 'never again' and vows to follow the example of Flight 93 have completely passed into memory?

I'll be more impressed when I hear of us stopping a plot that someone was actually trying to execute, rather than simply talking about.

170 posted on 02/09/2006 2:08:30 PM PST by lugsoul ("Try not to be sad." - Laura Bush)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

Exactly!!!


171 posted on 02/09/2006 2:09:06 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: lugsoul; justshutupandtakeit

Feel free to roam the range of your imagination and draw conclusions minus all the facts of the plot, if it makes you feel better. When or if we know the entire story, we can all take it up again. Till then...


172 posted on 02/09/2006 2:09:38 PM PST by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: txrangerette

Ah, now you poke your head up again, after refusing to respond to me earlier when I questioned your hostile tone.


173 posted on 02/09/2006 2:12:22 PM PST by lugsoul ("Try not to be sad." - Laura Bush)
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To: lugsoul

I have no idea what you are referring to about going wobbly and forgetting. There are very few here who would fit that characterization. Perhaps those who do little but attack the President might.


174 posted on 02/09/2006 2:43:50 PM PST by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I am referring to your contention that it would be an easy thing for a jihadi to place an explosive and blow the cockpit door, and that with a couple of guys guarding the aisle the passengers and crew wouldn't be able to prevent it.

BTW, who 'does little but attack the President'?

175 posted on 02/09/2006 3:03:25 PM PST by lugsoul ("Try not to be sad." - Laura Bush)
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To: sarasota
I was on the 24th floor of a Marriott in Chicago recently and was freaking out just thinking of 911. Good luck.

My husband works in a building that is in the afternoon shadow of the Sears Tower in Chicago. I'm on the lookout for a new job for him (to say the least).

176 posted on 02/09/2006 3:41:58 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Mike K

No, the Presidents all left after the Clintons spoke. I think the funeral went on for another 2-3 hours after that.


177 posted on 02/09/2006 4:28:46 PM PST by Purrcival (See, DUmmies? The Terrorist Surveillance program DOES work!)
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To: Mike K

Oh, but can you imagine the outcry if he had "snubbed" her by not attending? This President is damned if he does, and damned if he doesn't.


178 posted on 02/09/2006 4:30:53 PM PST by Purrcival (See, DUmmies? The Terrorist Surveillance program DOES work!)
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

I drove by the Sears Tower on Saturday and it still takes my breath away. Except in a different way.


179 posted on 02/09/2006 4:31:00 PM PST by sarasota
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To: syriacus
Makes me re-wonder about the time that we were told to buy duct tape and other supplies.

Maybe someone who lives near a chemical plant can fill in more details but I believe that was part of a fairly common strategy called shelter in place. If, for example, a chemical plant has a leak authorities do not want people to get in their cars tie up traffic and become exposed to a cloud of toxic gas. Instead they would like people to shelter in place, blocking up their windows and doors as best as they can with plastic and duct tape.

Of course the media spun this as duct tape is the only thing protecting us from an AQ attack.

180 posted on 02/09/2006 5:13:26 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (John 6: 31-69)
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