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On March 6th, American males must submit US Gov paperwork to be introduced to foreign women
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Posted on 02/14/2006 6:12:25 AM PST by GermanBusiness

The Violence Against Women Act signed by President Bush on Jan. 5 contains an almost unnoticed attachment.

Subtitle D, also known as the International Marriage Broker Regulation Act of 2005 (IMBA), will become law when VAWA is enacted. The IMBA is an ostensibly noble measure with a surprising and ominous twist.

The scant attention directed toward the IMBA has been positive.

A headline in Washington State's The Daily Herald announced, "Mail-order brides gain protection" with the subtitle "The mother of a murdered immigrant hopes that pending federal legislation will keep foreign brides from abuse, neglect and slavery."

The "murdered immigrant" refers to Anastasia King, a "mail-order bride" from the former Soviet Union. In 2000, King was murdered by her husband in Washington State where the case created a sensation largely because the husband had violently assaulted a previous "mail-order bride."

Rep. Rick Larsen, D-Wash., and Sen. Maria Cantwell, D-Wash., who championed the measure for years, introduced the IMBA to Congress.

Some parts sound reasonable. For example, U.S. consulates will provide "mail-order brides" with brochures that explain their legal rights.

Other parts sound draconian. For example, the IMBA requires American men who wish to correspond with foreign women through private for-profit matchmaking agencies to first provide those businesses with their police records and other personal information to be turned over to the women.

Corresponding with a foreigner is legal. Marrying a foreigner is legal. Immigrating spouses and their husbands go through rigorous and lengthy screening before visas are issued. U.S. laws against violence protect "mail-order brides."

Now American men who wish to pursue a legal activity must release their government files to a foreign business and foreign individuals for their personal benefit.

(Note: The act's language is gender-neutral but its clear purpose is to protect foreign women from predatory American men. Application to "male-order husbands" would be incidental as such 'brides' are relatively rare.)

The disclosure requirement is detailed under the provision entitled "Obligations of International Marriage Broker With Respect to Mandatory Collection of Information."

An international broker cannot provide contact or general information on a foreign woman to an American man unless that broker first collects and discloses to the woman the following information about the man:

Every state of residence since the age of 18; Current or previous marriages as well as how and when they terminated; Information on children under 18; Any arrest or conviction related to controlled substances, alcohol or prostitution, making no distinction on arrests not leading to conviction; Any court orders, including temporary restraining orders, which are notoriously easy to procure; Any arrest or conviction for crimes ranging from "homicide" to "child neglect"; Any arrest or conviction for "similar activity in violation of Federal, State or local criminal law" without specifying what "similar" means. U.S. law will provide foreign women with extensive government information on American suitors that is not similarly offered to American women — which it shouldn't it be either.

Contacting a woman for romantic purposes — internationally or domestically — is not a crime. Those who do so are not a priori criminals who must prove themselves innocent before being allowed an e-mail exchange.

How many American men will be impacted by the IMBA?


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To: GermanBusiness

Stopping an influx in ilegal status aliens from entering the country is in the best interest of the country, the powers of the federal government, and is a key conservative issue.

NOW who's the troll in the woodpile?

Agencies engaging in brokering marriages (not dates) should be required to ensure their product (an introduction to someone interested in marriage) lives up to it's claims. (failing to do that is false advertisement) Further they are obligated to make sure both ther male and female clients are not being led on at their own personal expense (which is called churning).


281 posted on 02/15/2006 11:04:57 AM PST by x5452
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To: x5452

[What part of 'marriage broker' do you not understand?]

Nobody uses this word anymore. These are dating sites. They are no different from Match.com and Yahoo Personals, which is why this law will be quickly defeated in court.

You have to understand that there is no such thing as a mail order bride agency. Even Feminazi Cantwell had to define the agencies she wants to destroy as "those doing more than 50% of their business with foreign women".

So Cantwell's description of more than 50% of the women having to be American in order to protect a business from draconian feminist fascism...goes to show you that this is what we are talking about here.

From now on, everyone here needs to say "Sites where 50+% of women are not Americans" instead of calling them mail order bride agencies, etc. The legal definition is "site where 50+% of the women are foreign".

So there is no difference between Match.com and the Russian Brides sites, except for the percentage of foreigners...and Match's ability to lobby itself temporarily out of legislation.

But one owner told me that the owners of Match and Friendfinder and Yahoo will work to bring this stupid law down in the courts ASAP as well.

Some of you seem to have no idea how dangerous an infringement of our rights this is.

Try calling the owners of the major American agencies. Well, if you're hostile, they won't tell you their legal plans, but I can tell you that they are planning challenges and an immediate overturning by the courts.


282 posted on 02/15/2006 11:07:08 AM PST by GermanBusiness (Buy from Danish Food Dot Net)
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To: x5452

[Stopping an influx in ilegal status aliens from entering the country is in the best interest of the country, the powers of the federal government, and is a key conservative issue.]

Stopping Muslim aliens needs to be the first priority. But some of you have a stick up your butt about Russians.


283 posted on 02/15/2006 11:09:07 AM PST by GermanBusiness (Buy from Danish Food Dot Net)
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To: GermanBusiness

A google search revals otherwise:
www.russianbrides.com
bride.ru
fiance.com

etc etc.

Check out their 'success stories':
http://www.russianbrides.com/client_comments.html

It's clear what they are promising and it ain't dates.


284 posted on 02/15/2006 11:10:45 AM PST by x5452
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To: GermanBusiness

There's tons of countries where if every tom dick and harry gets a visa they'd never look back, Russia is one, Ukraine, Poland, Mexico are others.


285 posted on 02/15/2006 11:11:43 AM PST by x5452
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To: GermanBusiness

It is shameless that the members of a site that claims to revere our fighting men and the freedoms they protect for us all, has not stood up to protect the basic rights of those men, by opposing vehemently this outrageous legislation which presumes all men guilty until proven innocent. Hypocrites!

Ultimately, this legislation will have the opposite effect of what its feminazis sponsors intended. The backlash resulting from this legislation will bring more attention to the dangers of the feminazis and the cowardice of little men, and will expose more men to the services which will help them find good wives abroad. The feminazis shoot themselves in the foot again.

As always, American men win and the feminazis lose.


286 posted on 02/15/2006 11:12:30 AM PST by Search4Truth (The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul.)
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To: handk
It's "Forty" dill weed. Just like "50" is not "Fivety", but "Fifty"; and "20" is not "Twoty", but "Twenty".

Thanks for the lesson. I commend you on your spelling of "hand".

At any rate, what does my screen name have to do with the subject of this thread at all?

287 posted on 02/15/2006 11:14:53 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Search4Truth

What this will stop is American agencies (not Russian ones who the US cannot regulate) from putting criminals and deadbeats in touch with naive victims who don't even know English let alone how to find out if their would-be husband is a convicted sex criminal or has alimony and child support from numerous failed mariages.


288 posted on 02/15/2006 11:17:21 AM PST by x5452
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To: GermanBusiness

Maybe this will help the Mexican economy by creating a new market for the illegal immigrant smugglers.


289 posted on 02/15/2006 11:19:19 AM PST by Kokojmudd (Outsource the US Senate to Mexico! Put Walmart in charge of all Federal agencies!)
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To: x5452

[Agencies engaging in brokering marriages (not dates) should be required to ensure their product]

But Feminazi Senator Cantwell (a Democrat, Mister supposed FReeper)..anyway, Feminazi Senator Cantwell doesn't care what the dating agencies call themselves. This legislation has nothing to do with your "Truth in Advertising" argument which is supposed to justify that a dating site can't just confirm with a guy that he has no criminal record and check his offender status...but has to send documents around the world to a woman before they can give out her contact information although SHE DOES NOT WANT THIS BUREAUCRACY.

These women DON'T WANT THE BUREAUCRACY. But the US Mommy State has decided that they have to get it, no matter how useless these forms are (no age info, no height or weight info for instance - just that he says he has no record - what a bureaucratic waste of time).

Why won't you answer: Are you for or against the idea that snail mail now has to go around the world to private addresses where a form with no photo, age, height, weight or occupation arrives at the home of what could be a Russian man scammer saying that a Jim in Wisconsin says he has no criminal records, no kids, no restraining orders and has lived in WI,MN,IL,OH and wants to meet you. Please confirm you got this form and send back over 4 weeks postal sending time?

Do you see how the idea that the recipient of this form could be a male scammer...will help get this law thrown out of court?

And, inside the Violence Against Women Act, this bullshucks just passed unanimously in the Senate?

Other countries aren't this insane. I am glad I also have Canadian citizenship. It might come in handy regarding Russia.


290 posted on 02/15/2006 11:20:45 AM PST by GermanBusiness (Buy from Danish Food Dot Net)
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To: Search4Truth

[will bring more attention to the dangers of the feminazis and the cowardice of little men, and]

I don't know. I see America filled with little men like X5442. They lost their balls years ago.


291 posted on 02/15/2006 11:22:38 AM PST by GermanBusiness (Buy from Danish Food Dot Net)
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To: cripplecreek

Right. More laws are what we need. They fix EVERYTHING!


292 posted on 02/15/2006 11:23:31 AM PST by subterfuge ("We're going to take things from you for the greater good..."---Hillary Rod-Ham Clinton)
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To: GermanBusiness

So now you are against this legislation completely based on who proposed it regardless of whether it's necessary.


293 posted on 02/15/2006 11:23:34 AM PST by x5452
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To: GermanBusiness

"Whatever" is a coward's way of saying "f*** off".


294 posted on 02/15/2006 11:24:22 AM PST by handk (The truth is the truth even if no one believes it, and a lie is a lie even if everyone believes it.)
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To: GermanBusiness

I'd like to know on what basis you're calling me 'little'.


295 posted on 02/15/2006 11:24:29 AM PST by x5452
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To: x5452
I have no sympathy for fat bald 50+ year olds

So you believe that love should only be for beautiful people. How swallow of you.

296 posted on 02/15/2006 11:24:38 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: subterfuge

The problem is numerous women being misled into coming to America and living with dangerous criminals.

This legislation is just like the sex offender list but is given to foreign women who wouldn't have access to this information otherwise.


297 posted on 02/15/2006 11:25:39 AM PST by x5452
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To: x5452
I have no sympathy for fat bald 50+ year olds

So you believe that love should only be for beautiful people. How shallow of you.

298 posted on 02/15/2006 11:25:44 AM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: x5452

[It's clear what they are promising and it ain't dates.]

That is right. The women are promised marriage and the men supposedly go there and get sex.

And you want to regulate that.

That is what the issue is really all about.

That plus the men women are often 19-25 years old which really burns feminazis up.

That is where you are at. That is where Maria Cantwell is at. Your BS about false advertising is just a smoke screen for your burning envy or sick religious mentality.

Or liberal, left wing bleeding heart for the poor women of the outside world damaged by the plundering white American male Hun.


299 posted on 02/15/2006 11:26:49 AM PST by GermanBusiness (Buy from Danish Food Dot Net)
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To: GermanBusiness
I may have to just use FR quickly to see the newswire and find a forum that cares about our rights.

You didn't last very long. Lousy opus too. C-U!

300 posted on 02/15/2006 11:27:38 AM PST by subterfuge ("We're going to take things from you for the greater good..."---Hillary Rod-Ham Clinton)
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