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What I don't understand is why politicians insist upon invoking the name of Christ, or of God, just for the sake of political gain. Is there nothing sacred? Where are people getting this indisputable evidence that Christ is in a political party? There are things that both parties get right, and there are things that both parties get wrong. As far as I'm concerned, being a Christian does not pigeon-hole you into a certain party, because there's plenty to dislike in each. Being a Christian conservative is tough in a two-party system, because you can't get too comfortable with any one party. Don't put the faith that should rest on Christ on a political party, or pin it on the next election cycle.
1 posted on 02/14/2006 7:29:28 AM PST by dson7_ck1249
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God is not a Republican.


But Satan is sure as hell a Democrat.


2 posted on 02/14/2006 7:31:52 AM PST by trubluolyguy (Where did they get those ref's, the WWE?)
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And surely God would never side with unpopular presidents.

I'm sure God is watching "Desperate Housewives" and "Sex and the City" up in heaven. God is always about being down with the popular culture, don'tcha know...

5 posted on 02/14/2006 7:44:21 AM PST by StrictTime
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I don't think GWB 'plays the God card'. He lives his faith and it comes through loud and clear. People who have no passing acquaintance with faith are the ones playing the 'God card'.
7 posted on 02/14/2006 7:45:48 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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I don't think GWB 'plays the God card'. He lives his faith and it comes through loud and clear. People who have no passing acquaintance with faith are the ones playing the 'God card'.
8 posted on 02/14/2006 7:46:39 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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Sorry about the double post. Sometimes the comment doesn't post and when you go back to post it, it double posts.


9 posted on 02/14/2006 7:47:53 AM PST by originalbuckeye
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Do you believe that the hand of God was on the 2000 election? Imagine how different the world would be today with Al Gore as president at that time. I believe that the Lord absolutely has George Bush in the place that He wants him to be. The Lord has plans for each and every one of His creations and to recognize that is not necassarily being political. Some do invoke the name of God for their own personal glory. Hillary comes to mind when right after the 2004 election she gave a speech in which god was used about every fifth word. The reality is that Christ would have been apolitical. But our politicians (human beings) must woork within the framework that has been established. George Bush is a good and faithful servant of the Lord and the more influence people such as he have, the more Satan will use others to knock him down. There is a reason that there is such pure hatred by the liberals towrds Bush and to not understand that this is actually spiritual warfare is very dangerous.


10 posted on 02/14/2006 7:51:30 AM PST by AZConcervative
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Get a clue!!!!

I have never once heard GWB claim that he had a corner on God. His CLAIMS are that he is a born again Christian. He has never claimed that he speaks for God. Or that God has told him to do this or that. Or that God has annointed him. He has claimed that he spends time in prayer, SEAKING to do the right thing. And SEAKING to do Gods will.

The label of God being for one party or the other is PRIMARILY a MSM fabrication. Though those of us who truely follow Christ feel that the Republican party, and the people in it, is the one that more closely adheres to Gods principals and laws. There is a difference, AND I MEAN A HUGE DIFFERENCE, between people associating a person or party to being more inline with their God, than someone claiming that their God is inline with their party.

One view tries to align man to God, the other God to man.

Quit drinking the MSM Koolaid. Diseminate information for yourself. And discern the information for yourself. Don't allow someone else mold your opinion to theirs.

FR is a great place to balance info from the outside world. But its not the end all of all discussions. But TRUTH is TRUTH, all the time. Its not relative, and its not only when it serves our view. Seek out the TRUTH.

11 posted on 02/14/2006 7:52:21 AM PST by mountn man (Tact is for people not witty enough to be sarcastic.)
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They cannot call Republicans “theocrats” for trying to save Terri Schiavo while they also claim John the Baptist endorsed their welfare state when he said, “He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none …” (Luke 3:11).
There is no record of John the Baptist having enforced his recommendation by telling a soldier to take the second coat from the person with two, and give it to the one with none.

That process, which is what the Democrats promote, actually precludes private charity. First by giving the glory not to God but to the government for clothing the poor. And second by assuring that the non-poor will not trouble to earn the money for a second coat since they know that the government would just take it away anyhow.


12 posted on 02/14/2006 8:02:02 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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I saw a couple of incredibly offensive billboards last year in my city (a very reliable red state!) from a group called "Grassroots Democrats". One said "Jesus helps the poor. So do Democrats." I do not remember what the other one said but was in the same vein. Both were placed on a very heavily travelled street across the street from the courthouse, jail, and lower-income neighborhoods. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I can't imagine the GOP doing something like this!!


16 posted on 02/14/2006 8:09:29 AM PST by philled
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"The God’s-on-our-side rhetoric is looking even less credible now..."



George Bush never said that.


17 posted on 02/14/2006 8:10:34 AM PST by Brilliant
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Bump for later.


22 posted on 02/14/2006 8:18:09 AM PST by Richard Kimball
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This from a party that doesn't even acknowledge that HE exists?


24 posted on 02/14/2006 8:24:28 AM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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Ecclesiastes 10:2 (New International Version)

The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.

i.e. only an idiot becomes a liberal.

25 posted on 02/14/2006 8:26:54 AM PST by smokinleroy
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And surely God would never side with unpopular presidents.

Thats too silly even to say.

30 posted on 02/14/2006 8:42:30 AM PST by marron
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Being a Christian conservative is tough in a two-party system
Don't get hung up over "third parties"; the two-party system - with the threat to each main party that it is not guaranteed to remain a main party as a discipline to it - is a good system.

Granted that neither of only two parties is ever likely to exactly fit your preferences or mine, the limiting case of rejecting parties is that everyone goes into the ballot box and writes in his own name - resulting in a tie.

Granted that neither of the two main parties may nominate the best person for the job. But what system actually can place the best person in the job??? If there are even as few as three choices to select from, there is no principled way to gurantee that the best candidate will prevail. If one gets 45% of the vote and another gets 40% of the vote, are you guaranteed that the candidate who only got 15% of the vote is not the most acceptable to the most people? Or that he is?

If you do not have word directly from God, you will always be reduced to voting for one fallible person or another (or, if you consider "third parties," another or another or another . . .). Better we have two parties which cull our choice down to manageable proportions, and hold those two parties responsible for their choices. Which is why I found the decision of the NJ Supreme Court so offensive back in '02 when it allowed the Democratic Party of New Jersey to replace its nominee on the ballot after the deadline to do so had passed. Doing so "gave the good people who vote Democrat a real chance" - but it allowed the Democratic Party to escape the consequences of its own venality in renominating a crook (Robert Torricelli) to be its candidate for the US Senate.


32 posted on 02/14/2006 8:44:04 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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What I don't understand is why politicians insist upon invoking the name of Christ, or of God, just for the sake of political gain.

I agree. But we have to be careful not to classify all mentions of the Lord the same way. If we are honest and have our eyes open, we can generally tell if someone is being sincere or not.

37 posted on 02/14/2006 10:17:24 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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Care to show me a quote where GWB says "God is on your side"?????


38 posted on 02/14/2006 10:19:14 AM PST by MikefromOhio (Brokeback Mountain: The ONLY western where the Cowboys GET IT IN THE END!!!)
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“The God’s-on-our-side rhetoric is looking even less credible now, after more than a year of frequently bad news for the president and his administration,” he writes....

The Founders were confident that God was "on our side," while constantly invoking his protection, guidance and wisdom.

I'd ask this smart-@ss Tom Krattenmaker whether it "backfired" on them as well?

40 posted on 02/14/2006 10:23:36 AM PST by F16Fighter
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